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DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) PC3200 CL16 G.Skill RipJaws V black:

This is the exact description I got from the computer store where I bought my hardware.

This is the rest of my setup:

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x 6x 3,7Ghz 35MB AM4

WAK Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX 280mm

MB ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E Gaming X570 AM4 WLAN+BT

DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) PC3200 CL16 G.Skill RipJaws V black=> running only at 2133Mhz 😞

SSD Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 1TB NVMe

FRACTAL-DESIGN DEFINE 7 Black Dark-TG Fenster

PCIe EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra Gaming 8GB GDDR6

 

After I built the system and set everything up I tried enabling the DOCP Profile in the BIOS 

-> Crash on POST (maybe? at least before the BIOS pops up) -> stuck in cycle of Blackscreens.

Cleared CMOS-> now running at 2133 again.

 

Checked the exact RAM sticks I got and see, that they are this type: F4-3200C16D-32GVK

This type is not listed in the QVL 😕

 

What in the lords name can I do?

heeelp meee

 

I forgot this: The system was already running at 3200 MHz stable (I used it for a week), before I switched out my main boot drive. I have no idea why it stopped working and so I restored default values for the BIOS

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Put in 1.35v as the RAM voltage, 3200MHz as the RAM speed, 16-18-18-38 as the main timings, then save. The motherboard will work out the subtimings on its own, may take a bit to POST or restart one or two times to do so. The XMP profile probably just doesn't play nice with your specific components, but usually you can just key in the main timings the kit is rated for and it will run fine. 

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4 minutes ago, hayate adil said:

DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) PC3200 CL16 G.Skill RipJaws V black:

This is the exact description I got from the computer store where I bought my hardware.

This is the rest of my setup:

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x 6x 3,7Ghz 35MB AM4

WAK Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX 280mm

MB ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E Gaming X570 AM4 WLAN+BT

DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) PC3200 CL16 G.Skill RipJaws V black=> running only at 2133Mhz 😞

SSD Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 1TB NVMe

FRACTAL-DESIGN DEFINE 7 Black Dark-TG Fenster

PCIe EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra Gaming 8GB GDDR6

 

After I built the system and set everything up I tried enabling the DOCP Profile in the BIOS 

-> Crash on POST (maybe? at least before the BIOS pops up) -> stuck in cycle of Blackscreens.

Cleared CMOS-> now running at 2133 again.

 

Checked the exact RAM sticks I got and see, that they are this type: F4-3200C16D-32GVK

This type is not listed in the QVL 😕

 

What in the lords name can I do?

heeelp meee

 

I forgot this: The system was already running at 3200 MHz stable (I used it for a week), before I switched out my main boot drive. I have no idea why it stopped working and so I restored default values for the BIOS

Try setting XMP in Advanced mode in bios (usually F7). Simple mode sometimes doesn't do it right. Also make sure you have the latest bios update installed.

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15 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Put in 1.35v as the RAM voltage, 3200MHz as the RAM speed, 16-18-18-38 as the main timings, then save. The motherboard will work out the subtimings on its own, may take a bit to POST or restart one or two times to do so. The XMP profile probably just doesn't play nice with your specific components, but usually you can just key in the main timings the kit is rated for and it will run fine. 

 

13 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

Try setting XMP in Advanced mode in bios (usually F7). Simple mode sometimes doesn't do it right. Also make sure you have the latest bios update installed.

I only use the advanced mode. From your experience, is the RAM being absent from the QVL a big problem?

and zando, you mean I should skip the DOCP and clock + volt the RAM to 3200 manually ?

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3 minutes ago, hayate adil said:

 

 

I only use the advanced mode. From your experience, is the RAM being absent from the QVL a big problem?

and zando, you mean I should skip the DOCP and clock + volt the RAM to 3200 manually ?

Are you running the latest bios, sometimes that helps with memory compatibility. 

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2 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

Are you running the latest bios, sometimes that helps with memory compatibility. 

I am running the February Bios, a new BIOS came out two days ago I think. 

No it came out today.... (edit)

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1 hour ago, hayate adil said:

and zando, you mean I should skip the DOCP and clock + volt the RAM to 3200 manually ?

Yep. XMP/DOCP usually works, but not always. If it isn't working then just punch in the specs off the stick and let the mobo sort out the subtimings. 

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Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

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22 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yep. XMP/DOCP usually works, but not always. If it isn't working then just punch in the specs off the stick and let the mobo sort out the subtimings. 

okay I just updated the BIOS to the newest Version (released today lol) and reset factory defaults

I put the SOC Voltage on 1.1V and the DRAM Voltage on 1.35 V. Didn't change speeds yet. everything worked.

Then I clocked with DRAM at 2400 MHz and BLCK at 1200 Mhz. Worked just fine.

 

So I am sure the the thing works up until 2400 MHz and is stable there at least.

 

Then I enabled DOCP 1 (I only have 1 profile for 3200 Mhz 16-18-18-38) and saved my changes just now.

And I am now stuck in a crash loop again. Ideas?

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3 hours ago, hayate adil said:

okay I just updated the BIOS to the newest Version (released today lol) and reset factory defaults

I put the SOC Voltage on 1.1V and the DRAM Voltage on 1.35 V. Didn't change speeds yet. everything worked.

Then I clocked with DRAM at 2400 MHz and BLCK at 1200 Mhz. Worked just fine.

 

So I am sure the the thing works up until 2400 MHz and is stable there at least.

 

Then I enabled DOCP 1 (I only have 1 profile for 3200 Mhz 16-18-18-38) and saved my changes just now.

And I am now stuck in a crash loop again. Ideas?

Maybe you need to change the IF clock to match? 3200 RAM is actually 1600Mhz, Double Data Rate so it’s 3200MT/s (they label it Mhz because it’s practically the same). So IF clock should be 1600MHz if you’re running 1:1 IF/RAM, which you want to for best performance. I’m going off assumptions here as I haven’t used any Ryzens newer than Zen+ and Zen 2 on up changed some stuff. 

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CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset 

Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads 

Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

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Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

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Make sure you are using the proper memory slots.

Double check the motherboard manual; it will tell you what slots to use for 1x , 2x, 3x or 4x DIMMs.

Typically for 2x DIMM modules, they should be spaced out (i.e. not using the slots side-by-side to one another).

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