Assistance Please - Config Choices and Missing Component Options

[IkeaGnome]

18 hours ago, NardsIsh said:

 

After a bit more research and seeing other Cougar Conquer 2 builds, my son is now unsure whether he wants that case as apparenty it is partially open and the work inside is blocked by the orange wing on the side of the case.  So he is now having me research the Jonsbo Mod3 case and it's requirements....OMG it feels like this nightmare is a continous circle

Jonsbo MOD3 manual.pdf 832.44 kB · 0 downloads

That seems excessive at that price....

https://www.amazon.com/MechWarrior-Computer-Support-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B085NKP6SG

[NardsIsh]

On 3/17/2021 at 5:18 AM, IkeaGnome said:

That seems excessive at that price....

https://www.amazon.com/MechWarrior-Computer-Support-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B085NKP6SG

Hi thank you for that, but once again we are back to the original Cougar Conquer 2 case lol.

 

May I please ask, I am trying to decide on storage.

 

For SSD I am thinking either Samsung 970 Evo 2TB or 980 Pro 2TB?

 

For HDD is it better to have 4TB or 6TB? Also, speed either 5400RPM or 7200RPM?

I am deciding between the Barracuda, Barracuda EXOS or WD Black?

 

Once again many thanks for your assistance.

[tire]

19 minutes ago, NardsIsh said:

Hi thank you for that, but once again we are back to the original Cougar Conquer 2 case lol.

 

May I please ask, I am trying to decide on storage.

 

For SSD I am thinking either Samsung 970 Evo 2TB or 980 Pro 2TB?

 

For HDD is it better to have 4TB or 6TB? Also, speed either 5400RPM or 7200RPM?

I am deciding between the Barracuda, Barracuda EXOS or WD Black?

 

Once again many thanks for your assistance.

Do a 980 pro, it is faster and it has 4gb of dram in it

[tire]

And I would recommend a 6tb hard drive, can’t be too safe

[NardsIsh]

44 minutes ago, tire said:

And I would recommend a 6tb hard drive, can’t be too safe

Hi once again thank you  with the HDD 6TB, does brand matter? and is it best to have large cache or RPM?

[tire]

11 minutes ago, NardsIsh said:

Hi once again thank you  with the HDD 6TB, does brand matter? and is it best to have large cache or RPM?

Go wd black

[NardsIsh]

1 hour ago, tire said:

Go wd black

I have read that WD Black is Loud? Is that still a better choice than say Seagate Barracuda?

 

Also, with the case it says you can have a 360mm AIO and a 240mm AIO (or 3x 120mm fans).

 

Would you go a 360mm AIO then 3x 120mm fans or 360mm AIO and a 240mm AIO? I am looking at the Thermaltake Water 3.0 for the AIO as apparently the AIO cannot be higher than 28mm so my choices are limited as I am also wanting something quiet

[tire]

1 minute ago, NardsIsh said:

I have read that WD Black is Loud? Is that still a better choice than say Seagate Barracuda?

 

Also, with the case it says you can have a 360mm AIO and a 240mm AIO (or 3x 120mm fans).

 

Would you go a 360mm AIO then 3x 120mm fans or 360mm AIO and a 240mm AIO? I am looking at the Thermaltake Water 3.0 for the AIO as apparently the AIO cannot be higher than 28mm so my choices are limited as I am also wanting something quiet

I mean firecuda is a faster and legitimately hard drive option if you want faster game loads

Yeah, for overclocking headroom, I’d do the 360mm to be safe 

[NardsIsh]

5 hours ago, tire said:

I mean firecuda is a faster and legitimately hard drive option if you want faster game loads

Yeah, for overclocking headroom, I’d do the 360mm to be safe 

Do I also add a 240mm AIO to the front or just the 360mm AIO at the top? Or have the 360mm to the top and 3x 120mm fans at the front? Or just the 360mm AIO to the top?

[Guest]

I would avoid Samsung SSD's just because they are overpriced. Also a Gen 3 SSD will be more than fast enough. A Sabrent Rocket, HP EX950 or Silicon Power A80 are all cheaper options.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LxXnTW/sabrent-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-2tb

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xM97YJ/hp-ex950-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-5ms24aaabc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J6ndnQ/silicon-power-a80-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a80m28

 

 

As for the HDD then the speed doesn't matter as it will be a mass storage drive. A regular WD Blue would be fine.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z2HRsY/western-digital-blue-6-tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd60ezaz

 

 

That Cougar case will be a nightmare to keep clean, as there are lots of open panels for dust to get in. For the rad support I can't see any mention of a 28mm thickness limit unless I missed it ? 

[NardsIsh]

On 3/25/2021 at 7:24 PM, lee32uk said:

I would avoid Samsung SSD's just because they are overpriced. Also a Gen 3 SSD will be more than fast enough. A Sabrent Rocket, HP EX950 or Silicon Power A80 are all cheaper options.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LxXnTW/sabrent-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-2tb

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xM97YJ/hp-ex950-2-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-5ms24aaabc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J6ndnQ/silicon-power-a80-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a80m28

 

 

As for the HDD then the speed doesn't matter as it will be a mass storage drive. A regular WD Blue would be fine.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z2HRsY/western-digital-blue-6-tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd60ezaz

 

 

That Cougar case will be a nightmare to keep clean, as there are lots of open panels for dust to get in. For the rad support I can't see any mention of a 28mm thickness limit unless I missed it ? 

Thank you so much... I am really stressed about getting the wrong components. I know that it is going to be a bugger to keep clean but my son’s mind (which I tried changing and thought I’d succeeded but sadly not) is 100% set on this as the case.

 

I read the spec on a Amazon Australia review from someone who purchased the case (see attached) this worries me even more as Cougar has made no mention of these discrepancies and or in their description so what else may or may not fit

 

OMG so sorry I did not realize this came through so large....sorry  and I'm going to biuld a PC...OMG 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, NardsIsh said:

Thank you so much... I am really stressed about getting the wrong components. I know that it is going to be a bugger to keep clean but my son’s mind (which I tried changing and thought I’d succeeded but sadly not) is 100% set on this as the case.

 

I read the spec on a Amazon Australia review from someone who purchased the case (see attached) this worries me even more as Cougar has made no mention of these discrepancies and or in their description so what else may or may not fit

Maybe go with the Cougar Helor AIO ? as that gets good reviews and will match the case. The video below shows the 360mm version in the Cougar Conquer 2 case. It is in Filipino for the most part, but you can still see the parts etc.

 

 

[tire]

3 hours ago, NardsIsh said:

Do I also add a 240mm AIO to the front or just the 360mm AIO at the top? Or have the 360mm to the top and 3x 120mm fans at the front? Or just the 360mm AIO to the top?

Unless you want to water cool your with one of those nzxt or aio gpu blocks, just do the 360 on the top

[NardsIsh]

12 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Maybe go with the Cougar Helor AIO ? as that gets good reviews and will match the case. The video below shows the 360mm version in the Cougar Conquer 2 case. It is in Filipino for the most part, but you can still see the parts etc.

 

 

Thank you oh unfortunately I’m in Australia and don’t have the Sabrent or Silicone options suggested  and I looked at the Cougar option but all reviews said it was loud

[Guest]

8 hours ago, NardsIsh said:

Thank you oh unfortunately I’m in Australia and don’t have the Sabrent or Silicone options suggested  and I looked at the Cougar option but all reviews said it was loud

Which reviews ? Both Toms Hardware and Anandtech give it a good review. Neither mention it being noisy.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/cougar-helor-360-liquid-cpu-cooler,6362-2.html

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15148/the-cougar-helor-240-360-cpu-liquid-cooler-review/5

 

 

The 240mm version review:

 

https://www.eteknix.com/cougar-helor-240-aio-cpu-cooler-review/3/

[NardsIsh]

12 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Which reviews ? Both Toms Hardware and Anandtech give it a good review. Neither mention it being noisy.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/cougar-helor-360-liquid-cpu-cooler,6362-2.html

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15148/the-cougar-helor-240-360-cpu-liquid-cooler-review/5

 

 

The 240mm version review:

 

https://www.eteknix.com/cougar-helor-240-aio-cpu-cooler-review/3/

My apologies I have read so many reviews I got the Cougar mixed up... which actually works in my favour, so I thank you very much for reintroducing the option to me and providing review links so I could “revise” it’s review, as I think going with cougar considering it’s a cougar case may be my best option

[NardsIsh]

Hi again

 

I think I may have finally decided on the specs for my son’s build... and yes I know... overkill but I figured “in for a penny in for a pound”

 

However, can I please have some advice as to which PSU to run with below out of options #1,2,3 or 4? 

 

As always I am so grateful for any guidance and or opinions on any component choice (as another opinion & even a reminder, as to why another component may be better suited is appreciated even more)

 

Case:

Cougar Conquer 2

 

Motherboard

ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

 

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

 

GPU

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 OC 10GB DDR6

Coolers

Cougar Helor 360 RGB AIO

&

Cougar Helor 240 RGB AIO

 

Memory

G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz DDR4
F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

 

SSD

Samsung 980 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Gen 4.0 x4

HDD

Western Digital WD6003FZBX WD Black 6TB 3.5" HDD SATA 6gb/s 7200RPM 256MB Cache

PSU Options?

#1

1000 Watt Corsair AX1000 Titanium Modular Power Supply CP-9020152-AU

 

#2

1000 Watt Corsair RM1000X 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply CP-9020094-AU

 

#3

850 Watt Corsair AX850 80 PLUS Titanium Modular Power Supply CP-9020151-AU

 

#4

Corsair RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

[dean_5234]

On 3/8/2021 at 5:24 PM, NardsIsh said:

I really need recommendations please for the following components:-

• Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi or Rog Strix X570-E Gaming (on sale) Need HDMI as I will be using an Elgato HD60S+ with the PC

• Sleeved Cables (do I need these?)

• CPU Cooler

• Fans

Sleeved cables are not necessary, but have a hugely positive impact on the theme and looks of a PC.

A new CPU Cooler is needed as the 5900X does not come with a stock cooler. The cooler you need will depend on whether your son plans on overclocking. Does he?

And fans, personally I would recommend Noctua for noise and performance and Corsair or cooler master for looks.

[Nena Trinity]

If they are obtainable get the Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz kit instead of those. 

[tire]

3 hours ago, NardsIsh said:

Hi again

 

I think I may have finally decided on the specs for my son’s build... and yes I know... overkill but I figured “in for a penny in for a pound”

 

However, can I please have some advice as to which PSU to run with below out of options #1,2,3 or 4? 

 

As always I am so grateful for any guidance and or opinions on any component choice (as another opinion & even a reminder, as to why another component may be better suited is appreciated even more)

 

Case:

Cougar Conquer 2

 

Motherboard

ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

 

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

 

GPU

ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 OC 10GB DDR6

Coolers

Cougar Helor 360 RGB AIO

&

Cougar Helor 240 RGB AIO

 

Memory

G.Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz DDR4
F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

 

SSD

Samsung 980 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Gen 4.0 x4

HDD

Western Digital WD6003FZBX WD Black 6TB 3.5" HDD SATA 6gb/s 7200RPM 256MB Cache

PSU Options?

#1

1000 Watt Corsair AX1000 Titanium Modular Power Supply CP-9020152-AU

 

#2

1000 Watt Corsair RM1000X 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply CP-9020094-AU

 

#3

850 Watt Corsair AX850 80 PLUS Titanium Modular Power Supply CP-9020151-AU

 

#4

Corsair RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

That seems good, just do remember that the TUF model of rtx 30 series gpus does have higher memory and vrm temps so watch out for that and be careful, also when it’s done, can we see the finished system?

 

cheers

[tire]

Oh yeah 850 watt is fine

[NardsIsh]

14 hours ago, tire said:

That seems good, just do remember that the TUF model of rtx 30 series gpus does have higher memory and vrm temps so watch out for that and be careful, also when it’s done, can we see the finished system?

 

cheers

Many thanks again  May I please ask whichh RTX 3080 you would go with as I honestly went with that model to tie in with the Motherboard (as I wasn't sure which one to run with?)

 

Also which 850? The Gold or the Titanium model?  

 

[tire]

2 minutes ago, NardsIsh said:

Many thanks again  May I please ask whichh RTX 3080 you would go with as I honestly went with that model to tie in with the Motherboard (as I wasn't sure which one to run with?)

 

Also which 850? The Gold or the Titanium model?  

 

I’d go with the strix model of the 3080, it is s e x y got some r g b and some silence, but it is triple 8 pin, so 1000 watt is good and go with titanium 

[NardsIsh]

16 hours ago, Nena Trinity said:

If they are obtainable get the Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz kit instead of those. 

Hi many thanks for your recommendation.

 

I did look at the Crucial, however I could not find a model number matching of theirs that had the specs I wanted, 31Gb (2x16G) 3600Mhz that was compatible on the QVL for the motherboard. 

 

Also not sure what the difference is with  Hynix's "DJR-die" RAM chips and Micron's "E-die", but G Skill got in the case as it ticked a few compatibility boxes with other components 

Hi many thanks for your recommendation.

 

I did look at the Crucial, however I could not find a model number matching of theirs that had the specs I wanted, 31Gb (2x16G) 3600Mhz that was compatible on the QVL for the motherboard. 

 

Also not sure what the difference is with  Hynix's "DJR-die" RAM chips and Micron's "E-die", but G Skill got in the case as it ticked a few compatibility boxes with other components 

[Nena Trinity]

16 minutes ago, NardsIsh said:

Hi many thanks for your recommendation.

 

I did look at the Crucial, however I could not find a model number matching of theirs that had the specs I wanted, 31Gb (2x16G) 3600Mhz that was compatible on the QVL for the motherboard. 

 

Also not sure what the difference is with  Hynix's "DJR-die" RAM chips and Micron's "E-die", but G Skill got in the case as it ticked a few compatibility boxes with other components 

Hi many thanks for your recommendation.

 

I did look at the Crucial, however I could not find a model number matching of theirs that had the specs I wanted, 31Gb (2x16G) 3600Mhz that was compatible on the QVL for the motherboard. 

 

Also not sure what the difference is with  Hynix's "DJR-die" RAM chips and Micron's "E-die", but G Skill got in the case as it ticked a few compatibility boxes with other components 

Yeah if its on the QVL list the board has some clue how to optimize for the stick, tough the Crucial E-die is best of the best since they belong to Micron, if you get E-die from anyone else their secondary timings are always worse. ^_^ (I have CJR in mine from HyperX the predator 3600MHz 2x16GB kit)