Server Build for Virtualization

[JakeCP]

Budget (including currency): 1000-1,500 USD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Virtualization

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So I am thinking about setting up a server in a datacenter for virtualization mainly. But I am in a budget and I have no clue where to start/ what suggestions you might have

 

I have found so far: server monkey.com , rack servers.com and https://unixsurplus.com/new-quanta-qs2b-b-10-bay-sff-d51b-1u-sas-3-3008-chipset-e5-2667v3/

 

I would generally need:

200 Watt power

128GB Ram DDR3 or DDR4 (but definitely expandable to 256GB or 512)

An AMD Processor? Maybe Intel? What do you suggest?

2TB NVMe SSD or more?

1Gbps dual NIC

 

I hope you could help me out here :)

 

Best Regards!

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, JakeCP said:

So I am thinking about setting up a server in a datacenter for virtualization mainly. But I am in a budget and I have no clue where to start/ what suggestions you might have

Hey I did some colocation  recently. I wend with a asrock rack system with the am4 board in it, and a 3900x. Its working great now.

 

What drives do you want to use in it?

 

What cpus do you plan on using in that server, those get over 200w really quickly, so you probalby want the L skus.

 

 

[Biomecanoid]

11 minutes ago, JakeCP said:

Budget (including currency): 1000-1,500 USD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Virtualization

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So I am thinking about setting up a server in a datacenter for virtualization mainly. But I am in a budget and I have no clue where to start/ what suggestions you might have

 

I have found so far: server monkey.com , rack servers.com and https://unixsurplus.com/new-quanta-qs2b-b-10-bay-sff-d51b-1u-sas-3-3008-chipset-e5-2667v3/

 

I would generally need:

200 Watt power

128GB Ram DDR3 or DDR4 (but definitely expandable to 256GB or 512)

An AMD Processor? Maybe Intel? What do you suggest?

2TB NVMe SSD or more?

1Gbps dual NIC

 

I hope you could help me out here

 

Best Regards!

200 watt PSU ? more like 2000 watt  and you will need 10Gps not 1.  Do you know what you want to do with it ?

[JakeCP]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Hey I did some colocation  recently. I wend with a asrock rack system with the am4 board in it, and a 3900x. Its working great now.

 

What drives do you want to use in it?

 

What cpus do you plan on using in that server, those get over 200w really quickly, so you probalby want the L skus.

 

 

 

Just some NVMe SSD's with some nice performance (10Gbps reads and writes)

Speaking about CPU's I was thinking Intel E-2200 series

 

Not sure if this is way over the budget? Or TDP? 

[JakeCP]

1 minute ago, Biomecanoid said:

200 watt PSU ? more like 2000 watt  and you will need 10Gps not 1.  Do you know what you want to do with it ?

I can not go over 200Watt as power in DC's is very expensive. That is one of the limitations sadly.

 

Yes I want to use it for web hosting and virtualization of VPS's. 1Gbps is enough as, again, 10Gbps internet connectivity on a DC is very very expensive. So to reduce the budget I think it is better to limit to 1Gbps

[JakeCP]

7 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Hey I did some colocation  recently. I wend with a asrock rack system with the am4 board in it, and a 3900x. Its working great now.

 

What drives do you want to use in it?

 

What cpus do you plan on using in that server, those get over 200w really quickly, so you probalby want the L skus.

 

 

This one looks just perfect, what do you think?

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U2LW-C242#Specifications

[Biomecanoid]

5 minutes ago, JakeCP said:

I can not go over 200Watt as power in DC's is very expensive. That is one of the limitations sadly.

 

Yes I want to use it for web hosting and virtualization of VPS's. 1Gbps is enough as, again, 10Gbps internet connectivity on a DC is very very expensive. So to reduce the budget I think it is better to limit to 1Gbps

I see you are confused.  A server won't have only 200watt PSU. 10Gbps is for local access nothing to do with internet.

[Electronics Wizardy]

 

 

Just now, JakeCP said:

This one looks just perfect, what do you think?

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U2LW-C242#Specifications

Id go this https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U4LW-X470#Specifications

 

I have it coloacted right now. Faster cpu, about the same cost, might bo over budget, but both of these are limited to 128gb of ram.

 

If you want more ram, Id put the low power chips into a server like a dell r630.

 

1 minute ago, Biomecanoid said:

I see you are confused.  A server won't have only 200watt PSU. 10Gbps is for local access nothing to do with internet.

This server is colocated, so the 200w limit is from the dc, nothing you can do without paying much more.

 

If you coloated a single server, there isn't a lan you connect to, just a wan. so 10gbe won't be useful as you don't have that fast of a wan link.

[JakeCP]

1 minute ago, Biomecanoid said:

I see you are confused.  A server won't have only 200watt PSU. 10Gbps is for local access nothing to do with internet.

Oh I see, but a 10Gbps connection would make no sense as it is a single node. And yes you are right about the PSU I confused it with power usage.

[JakeCP]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

 

 

Id go this https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U4LW-X470#Specifications

 

I have it coloacted right now. Faster cpu, about the same cost, might bo over budget, but both of these are limited to 128gb of ram.

 

If you want more ram, Id put the low power chips into a server like a dell r630.

 

This server is colocated, so the 200w limit is from the dc, nothing you can do without paying much more.

 

If you coloated a single server, there isn't a lan you connect to, just a wan. so 10gbe won't be useful as you don't have that fast of a wan link.

Where did you buy it?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, JakeCP said:

Where did you buy it?

bought it from amazon, about $600 something I think. Probably about $1500 for my setup without drives.

 

[JakeCP]

P.D. I think this one might be cheaper https://unixsurplus.com/new-quanta-qs2b-b-10-bay-sff-d51b-1u-sas-3-3008-chipset-e5-2667v3/

 

Although a worse CPU, it has DDR4 Ram included and I would just need to pay for the M.2 drives (NVMe SSD's)

[Biomecanoid]

6 minutes ago, JakeCP said:

Oh I see, but a 10Gbps connection would make no sense as it is a single node. And yes you are right about the PSU I confused it with power usage.

Are you sure you don't need fast LAN ? you won't have to access files or databases somewhere else ? or on a NAS ? on the same network ?

[JakeCP]

2 minutes ago, Biomecanoid said:

Are you sure you don't need fast LAN ? you won't have to access files or databases somewhere else ? or on a NAS ? on the same network ?

Not for now. I will in the future add an internal network but that would require buying more U space and power and so on. The bill would just skyrocket.

 

In the future I am planing 40Gbps connections with kind of "cloud servers" so one server does storage, another does Ram and another does CPU. But that is still a couple years from now!

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, JakeCP said:

P.D. I think this one might be cheaper https://unixsurplus.com/new-quanta-qs2b-b-10-bay-sff-d51b-1u-sas-3-3008-chipset-e5-2667v3/

 

Although a worse CPU, it has DDR4 Ram included and I would just need to pay for the M.2 drives (NVMe SSD's)

Id probably get a dell or hp or lenovo as the remote managemente is better, and there normally just built better.

 

What cpus would you use, that server didn't have any included. 

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Biomecanoid said:

Are you sure you don't need fast LAN ? you won't have to access files or databases somewhere else ? or on a NAS ? on the same network ?

Have you done colocation? You don't really have a lan with a single colocated server.

[Biomecanoid]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id probably get a dell or hp or lenovo as the remote managemente is better, and there normally just built better.

 

What cpus would you use, that server didn't have any included. 

 

 

 

 

Have you done colocation? You don't really have a lan with a single colocated server.

colocation is just a fancy name for renting space in a data center.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Biomecanoid said:

colocation is just a fancy name for renting space in a data center.

true, but have you done it? Cause you seem to be fixated on the 10gbe lan thing when it won't matter here.

[Biomecanoid]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

true, but have you done it? Cause you seem to be fixated on the 10gbe lan thing when it won't matter here.

I don't need to rent space, at work we have our own Data Center.