Suggestions for ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 3060

[NotSoHealthy]

Budget (if you have changes make sure that they are not much different from original price) 

Country: france

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1080p gaming, 1 monitor play at the highest settings i can manage

any suggestions would much appreciated i have been looking to change the motherboard but couldn't find a good alternative and i couldn't get 16gb of ram so im goin with 8 and maybe upgrade later

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€212.99 @ Cdiscount) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.94 @ TopAchat) 

GPU: 3060 i'm counting it at €400 not at msrp
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  (€45.97 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€41.44 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Case: DIYPC DIY-A9-BK ATX Mid Tower Case (random case not getting this one)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 
Total: €780.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-18 15:55 CET+0100

[NotSoHealthy]

Keep in mind that the b450 ds3h only has 2 fan headers including cpu fan so i would love a mb with more fan headers

[GhostRoadieBL]

A 3060 for 1080p high is pretty overkill, you can save a lot of $ going with a 2070 after the 3060 is in stock and put it towards +$50 for 16gb ram 3600mhz

3600 can easily be replaced by the 3300x without any loss in performance in 99%of games 

For the price of 256gb+500gb drives you can definitely find a 1tb nvme

I would recommend against the corsair cv line if you can avoid it, a 650w 80+ gold will be around $20-30more and have way more reliable parts. 

 

[.Apex.]

Just now, GhostRoadieBL said:

A 3060 for 1080p high is pretty overkill, you can save a lot of $ going with a 2070 after the 3060 is in stock and put it towards +$50 for 16gb ram 3600mhz

3600 can easily be replaced by the 3300x without any loss in performance in 99%of games 

For the price of 256gb+500gb drives you can definitely find a 1tb nvme

I would recommend against the corsair cv line if you can avoid it, a 650w 80+ gold will be around $20-30more and have way more reliable parts. 

 

An RTX 3060 is not overkill for 1080p, it'll most likely perform closely to the regular RTX 2070 but cheaper and with 12GB of VRAM, and going forward games would become more CPU bound for sure, so a 3600 is needed, even though a 3300X would be okay right now.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, .Apex. said:

even though a 3300X would be okay right now.

Ehh. The 3300x actually has a higher clock, so for games that don't need the 6 core the 3300x is better

[.Apex.]

5 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Ehh. The 3300x actually has a higher clock, so for games that don't need the 6 core the 3300x is better

A 100Mhz-200Mhz clock difference is insignificant compared to the amount of extra cores, 6 Cores is 50% faster than 4 Cores, while as an example 4Ghz and 3.9Ghz is 2.5% faster.

 

Especially since the 3600 can easily be overclocked

[.Apex.]

3 minutes ago, WikiForce said:

3300x actually beats 3600 in gaming performance (when both are at stock), so he's right about 4c/8t CPUs being enough for gaming

The 3600 performs slightly faster in games but it isn't much, and I agree that it is enough for now, but as I've said, in the very near future games will become a lot more CPU dependent so the extra 2 cores will become handy

[Downkey]

34 minutes ago, NotSoHealthy said:

Budget (if you have changes make sure that they are not much different from original price) 

Country: france

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1080p gaming, 1 monitor play at the highest settings i can manage

any suggestions would much appreciated i have been looking to change the motherboard but couldn't find a good alternative and i couldn't get 16gb of ram so im goin with 8 and maybe upgrade later

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€212.99 @ Cdiscount) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.94 @ TopAchat) 

GPU: 3060 i'm counting it at €400 not at msrp
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  (€45.97 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€41.44 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Case: DIYPC DIY-A9-BK ATX Mid Tower Case (random case not getting this one)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 
Total: €780.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-18 15:55 CET+0100

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€212.99 @ Cdiscount
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€99.90 @ Amazon France
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	€119.94 @ TopAchat
Storage	Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€39.97 @ Amazon France
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€39.99 @ Amazon France
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	€54.90 @ Amazon France
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€96.49 @ Amazon France
Custom	RTX 3060	€329.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€993.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-18 16:35 CET+0100

 

[NotSoHealthy]

37 minutes ago, Downkey said:

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€212.99 @ Cdiscount
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€99.90 @ Amazon France
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	€119.94 @ TopAchat
Storage	Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€39.97 @ Amazon France
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€39.99 @ Amazon France
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	€54.90 @ Amazon France
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€96.49 @ Amazon France
Custom	RTX 3060	€329.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€993.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-18 16:35 CET+0100

 

this is 200€ over my budget with 3060 at msrp

[GhostRoadieBL]

2 hours ago, .Apex. said:

An RTX 3060 is not overkill for 1080p, it'll most likely perform closely to the regular RTX 2070 but cheaper and with 12GB of VRAM, and going forward games would become more CPU bound for sure, so a 3600 is needed, even though a 3300X would be okay right now.

How much vram do you think 1080p actually uses? Unless they plan to go entry-level 4k or high refresh 1440p there's no reason. 

 

As for cheaper that's based on what? Yes the launch price is cheaper but that means nothing for the used market where budget restrained buyers should be looking. When cheaper cards show up on the market everything last gen adjusts, IF they can get the shiny newest card with never before seen demand and pent up buyers from the rest of the 3000series launches, great for them. The most likely case is buyers of 3060s will offload 2070s causing the price to drop. 

 

So far there are few games utilizing more than 8threads effectively and that won't change for games already released. Some games will benefit from more cores but without actually seeing a noticeable performance loss with 4 vs 6 cores there's better places to spend initially and upgrade to a 5600x later if/when it becomes necessary to keep playing.