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Too fast for its own good: Intel kills consumer Optane

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it was stuck behind a interface that was too slow, and capacities that were too small, hopefully things improve once ccix comes around 

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On 1/16/2021 at 7:02 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Could this be a new CEO move?

probably. they in a tricky situation and part of the change plan is probably trimming things that don't do well 

Usually how it goes.

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Anyone here use these/like them? They killed in random read/write performance. Had been considering getting one, but been checking periodically for them to release a PCIe 4.0 version.

 

Guess that's not happening, lol.

 

I'd pay extra for games to load faster, but not 10x the cost to shave half a second (which seemed to be about it). 

 

Wonder if this will be like Plasma TVs? Where it took 10yrs to finally get a better picture; because the average Joe only cared about cost. The PC market is far more niche than TVs, so I guess Optane is dead. Might pick one up if I can find a deal.

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This is one of those things that's absolutely killer in its implementation but sees limited actual benefit for many consumer use-cases. 

 

It was a niche product, essentially 

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The Portable Workstation (Apple MacBook Pro 16" 2021)

SoC: Apple M1 Max (8+2 core CPU w/ 32-core GPU) | RAM: 32GB unified LPDDR5 | Storage: 1TB PCIe Gen4 SSD | OS: macOS Monterey

 

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12 hours ago, NinjaChemist said:

Anyone here use these/like them? They killed in random read/write performance. Had been considering getting one, but been checking periodically for them to release a PCIe 4.0 version.

 

Guess that's not happening, lol.

If your pockets are deep enough I'm sure there are enterprise level offerings.

 

I have a 900p (1st gen stand alone version) as OS drive in the system I'm using right now. Have done for some years. I had a bit more disposable income in those days! The QD1 performance is on another level compared to flash SSDs, but in practice, I can't say I notice it compared to, for example, a Samsung SM951 or 960 Evo.

 

I also tried it as ram substitute in another use case, but it was horribly crippled by the NVMe interface.

 

12 hours ago, NinjaChemist said:

I'd pay extra for games to load faster, but not 10x the cost to shave half a second (which seemed to be about it). 

At the time I got mine, it was more like 4x the cost per capacity compared to high end flash.

 

12 hours ago, NinjaChemist said:

Wonder if this will be like Plasma TVs? Where it took 10yrs to finally get a better picture; because the average Joe only cared about cost. The PC market is far more niche than TVs, so I guess Optane is dead. Might pick one up if I can find a deal.

For consumer use cases, which are much more cost sensitive, it was never going to be an easy sell. It'll remain well suited for high end use cases where the performance is more important than cost.

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