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In the span of a year, I burned through 2 Dell U2718Q. And burn is quite literally what happened, as both monitors have some massive burn-in around the bottom edge and permanent light bleed across the entire frame. It got bad to the point where colors around the center of both monitors started shifting and as someone who does color critical work, I want to move away as much as possible from Dell and their awful QC.

 

I know IPS and light bleed are pretty much a given and I've been hearing good things about VA panels. Sure, there's the downside of limited viewing angles, but as long as it's uncompromised from a normal viewing angle, I'd be willing to make a VA panel my next monitor.

 

Thing is, I've never used one of those and I'd love to hear from someone with experience with both types of panel. Does VA really offer a lot more contrast than IPS? How about brightness; is it brighter or dimmer than IPS?

 

I'm looking at a couple of 32 inch VA LG monitors we have available here in Brazil, so if anyone has experience with those, how is it?

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TN will have better response times than IPS or VA with the trade being, color aren't as strong. This is my monitor, it's a 144Hz 1ms 1080p TN panel. Amazon.com: Acer Gaming Monitor 27 Inches KG271 Cbmidpx 1920 x 1080 144Hz Refresh Rate AMD FREESYNC Technology (Display Port, HDMI & DVI Ports) Black: Computers & Accessories

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1 minute ago, jidenshaotoko said:

In the span of a year, I burned through 2 Dell U2718Q. And burn is quite literally what happened, as both monitors had some massive burn-in around the bottom edge and permanent light bleed across the entire frame. It got bad to the point where colors around the center of both monitors started shifting and as someone who does color critical work, I want to move away as much as possible from Dell and their awful QC.

 

I know IPS and light bleed are pretty much a given and I've been hearing good things about VA panels. Sure, there's the downside of limited viewing angles, but as long as it's uncompromised from a normal viewing angle, I'd be willing to make a VA panel my next monitor.

 

Thing is, I've never used one of those and I'd love to hear from someone with experience with types of panels. Does VA really offer a lot more contrast than IPS? How about brightness; is it brighter or dimmer than IPS?

 

I'm looking at a couple of 32 inch VA LG monitors we have available here in Brazil, so if anyone has experience with those, how is it?

I have never had that issue on any of my AOC IPS panels. Don't go for "gaming" monitors. Look for business monitors instead. I'd never get a VA or TN panel again but that is a personal preference. Check out tftcentral.co.uk for in depth reviews on monitors to get an idea on what to buy. 

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VA have more contrast, but worse in colors. IPS you get a better experience, VA might work better with a color filter like QLED to NANO IPS (but has to be calibrated for sRGB?). Although any good screen will of course be in a higher price, also needing a good brightness level if you want it more towards HDR. Some lower end IPS screens can be awful.

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4 hours ago, OGKRG said:

TN will have better response times than IPS or VA with the trade being, color aren't as strong. This is my monitor, it's a 144Hz 1ms 1080p TN panel. Amazon.com: Acer Gaming Monitor 27 Inches KG271 Cbmidpx 1920 x 1080 144Hz Refresh Rate AMD FREESYNC Technology (Display Port, HDMI & DVI Ports) Black: Computers & Accessories

I'm looking for a monitor that's best suited for color critical work, so response times aren't really that important to me personally. 4K is preferred as well. I don't need it to go as far as having 100% coverage of the RGB spectrum, but anything to the tune of around 95% works great for me.

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4 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

VA have more contrast, but worse in colors. IPS you get a better experience, VA might work better with a color filter like QLED to NANO IPS (but has to be calibrated for sRGB?).

Although any good screen will of course be in a higher price, also needing a good brightness level if you want it more towards HDR.

Some lower end IPS screens can be very awful.

Thanks! Good to know VA has worse colors. Do you know if 4K IPS LG monitors have a history with burn-in and severe light bleed?

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5 hours ago, Applefreak said:

I have never had that issue on any of my AOC IPS panels. Don't go for "gaming" monitors. Look for business monitors instead. I'd never get a VA or TN panel again but that is a personal preference. Check out tftcentral.co.uk for in depth reviews on monitors to get an idea on what to buy. 

Thanks! I'll check it out. Yeah, I tried to stay away from gaming monitors and that's why I bought the U2718Q which is geared towards work in general. Hate the experience in general, especially considering how pricey these are here in Brazil. I'll see if we have AOC here in Brazil.

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1 minute ago, jidenshaotoko said:

best suited for color critical work

then IPS is probably your best bet. VA's advantage is how it stands between TN and IPS in price, speed and quality and on the better side. If you want a panel type that's good in one area specifically, dont go with VA.

 

Panel type isnt everything however and regular color calibration is still important.

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4 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

then IPS is probably your best bet. VA's advantage is how it stands between TN and IPS in price, speed and quality and on the better side. If you want a panel type that's good in one area specifically, dont go with VA.

 

Panel type isnt everything however and regular color calibration is still important.

Got you. Guess I'll focus my research on IPS. I have to admit I'm afraid of buying yet another expensive monitor and go through the same issues as I did with Dell though. Any IPS LG monitor you'd recommend?

 

Reason why I'm focusing on LG is that it's the brand that's most readily available here in Brazil. With most other brands we either can't buy it here or they are prohibitively expensive.

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4 minutes ago, jidenshaotoko said:

Reason why I'm focusing on LG is that it's the brand that's most readily available here in Brazil. With most other brands we either can't buy it here or they are prohibitively expensive.

LG and samsung is one of the bigger names and also have some monitors with color filters, although they do have cheaper models that can be not so great too.

Would not trust dell or AOC, although I think AOC is a brand for cheaper displays but they have some better displays too? Dell might have some good ones in a higher price range, just don't like dell in general :P

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4 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

LG and samsung is one of the bigger names and also have some monitors with color filters, although they do have cheaper models that can be not so great too.

Would not trust dell or AOC, although I think AOC is a brand for cheaper displays? Dell might have some good ones in a higher price range, just don't like dell in general :P

I used to think Dell was good until I had this experience with these monitors. Just awful.

 

Do you know if the LG 27UL500 is any good?

 

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Just now, jidenshaotoko said:

Do you know if the LG 27UL500 is any good?

don't know, you could try the site suggested by one of the guys in the top.

Or search it on youtube and see some reviews around the internet.

But you could also see if it have a rating too, either it being HDR or brightness etc.

 

You could go oled, being expensive and burns maybe more in into the screen unless dell's model just had a big issue with that.

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4 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

don't know, you could try the site suggested by one of the guys in the top.

Or search it on youtube and see some reviews around the internet.

But you could also see if it have a rating too, either it being HDR or brightness etc.

 

You could go oled, being expensive and burns maybe more in into the screen unless dell's model just had a big issue with that.

I've read up on this monitor I asked you about quite a bit, but it's difficult to get a feel for what it's like to use it.

 

OLEDs are a big no for me. They are way too expensive and we won't have it available here in Brazil and burn-in is a huge deal to me, especially because the two U2718Q I own are IPS and have some massive permanent burn-in on them already.

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I have had all three types and I will never move away from IPS anymore. My experience with a VA panel was that the contrast is very good, however the one I had, and this is apparently more often the case, had terrible ghosting / smearing. 

I now have the 27gl83a-b and I really love the monitor.

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31 minutes ago, jidenshaotoko said:

Got you. Guess I'll focus my research on IPS. I have to admit I'm afraid of buying yet another expensive monitor and go through the same issues as I did with Dell though. Any IPS LG monitor you'd recommend?

 

Reason why I'm focusing on LG is that it's the brand that's most readily available here in Brazil. With most other brands we either can't buy it here or they are prohibitively expensive.

The LG 34GN850 seems to be the most reviewed large ones with good colors, maybe there are more that I didnt see before.

 

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1 hour ago, martward said:

I have had all three types and I will never move away from IPS anymore. My experience with a VA panel was that the contrast is very good, however the one I had, and this is apparently more often the case, had terrible ghosting / smearing. 

I now have the 27gl83a-b and I really love the monitor.

This is why I use TN, the panel I have is clean for 144Hz. What's the response time of your IPS like 5? 

 

I had this one before I got my Acer monitor Amazon.com: Sceptre 24-Inch Curved 144Hz Gaming LED Monitor Edge-Less AMD FreeSync DisplayPort HDMI, Machine Black (C248B-144RN): Computers & Accessories Not going all placebo and saying 3ms was the reason why I had smearing and it felt delayed, even though it was 144hz. Could be the technology used vs my Acer. I am sure there are 1ms 144hz monitor that feel garbage also, trial and error, blah blah blah, ya know. It's all subjective at the end of the day, user experience matters most. I am in love with my panel currently, despite being less appealing for color, vs other panels. 

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