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Forgive me if these are entry-level questions...

 

I have received my 5900X, but expect to have to wait a while before my 3090 will be delivered (supplier claimed to have it in stock so I ordered everything, but of course it was not in stock). 

Long story short, in a couple of days I will have my mobo (Aorus x570 Master), my RAM (G.skill trident neo), case, AIO, etc. but I will not be able to build the system as I will be missing the GPU, but I would like to test my CPU and RAM - by testing I mean make sure they are working, not benchmarking them...  

I have a (very old) GTX970 GPU and was wondering:

  1. Can I simply update the mobo bios, stick the CPU and ram in and add the GTX970 and see whether it posts? (am I correct in understanding that if it posts, then I should be able to see that the CPU and RAM work)
  2. Can I do this outside the case (e.g. on the mobo box)? (I would prefer to build the entire system once I have the GPU)
  3. Can I do this without adding the AIO cooling for the CPU (e.g. by pointing a fan at the CPU), given that I just want to make sure that it posts? (I would prefer not mounting the AIO before I have the GPU in order to be able to see how it can actually fit)
  4. Is there anything important that I should keep in mind while trying to do this?

Thanks a lot in advance :) 

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8 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I simply update the mobo bios, stick the CPU and ram in and add the GTX970 and see whether it posts?

yes

8 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I do this outside the case (e.g. on the mobo box)?

yes

8 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I do this without adding the AIO cooling for the CPU (e.g. by pointing a fan at the CPU), given that I just want to make sure that it posts? 

no

 

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10 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I simply update the mobo bios, stick the CPU and ram in and add the GTX970 and see whether it posts? (am I correct in understanding that if it posts, then I should be able to see that the CPU and RAM work)

Yes

 

10 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I do this outside the case (e.g. on the mobo box)? (I would prefer to build the entire system once I have the GPU)

Yes (it's actually recommended that you always do this for a build)

 

10 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Can I do this without adding the AIO cooling for the CPU (e.g. by pointing a fan at the CPU), given that I just want to make sure that it posts? (I would prefer not mounting the AIO before I have the GPU in order to be able to see how it can actually fit)

You'll be ok if the system is only on for a few seconds, but any more than that and you'll need a CPU cooler

 

10 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Is there anything important that I should keep in mind while trying to do this?

There's not really a problem with using the 970 until the new card comes, I recommend finishing the build and installing windows, as well as all your software, and just using the weaker card temporarily

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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7 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Forgive me if these are entry-level questions...

 

I have received my 5900X, but expect to have to wait a while before my 3090 will be delivered (supplier claimed to have it in stock so I ordered everything, but of course it was not in stock). 

Long story short, in a couple of days I will have my mobo (Aorus x570 Master), my RAM (G.skill trident neo), case, AIO, etc. but I will not be able to build the system as I will be missing the GPU, but I would like to test my CPU and RAM - by testing I mean make sure they are working, not benchmarking them...  

I have a (very old) GTX970 GPU and was wondering:

  1. Can I simply update the mobo bios, stick the CPU and ram in and add the GTX970 and see whether it posts? (am I correct in understanding that if it posts, then I should be able to see that the CPU and RAM work)
  2. Can I do this outside the case (e.g. on the mobo box)? (I would prefer to build the entire system once I have the GPU)
  3. Can I do this without adding the AIO cooling for the CPU (e.g. by pointing a fan at the CPU), given that I just want to make sure that it posts? (I would prefer not mounting the AIO before I have the GPU in order to be able to see how it can actually fit)
  4. Is there anything important that I should keep in mind while trying to do this?

Thanks a lot in advance :) 

1.) Yes

2.) Yes, makes things easier

3.) Not a good idea on AMD, if you have an old heatsink from a different pc, you can put that on with some thermal paste. It does not need to be mounted but you will need something that can soak up that heat quickly. A flat block of aluminium or copper would work as well if the system will be shutdown quickly in enough. 

Old AM3 coolers can even be mounted directly on the cpu with the existing AM4 bracket.

4.) Keep calm and take your time. If you have further questions during the building process, someone here can surely help you out.

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31 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

3.) Not a good idea on AMD, if you have an old heatsink from a different pc, you can put that on with some thermal paste. It does not need to be mounted but you will need something that can soak up that heat quickly. A flat block of aluminium or copper would work as well if the system will be shutdown quickly in enough. 

Old AM3 coolers can even be mounted directly on the cpu with the existing AM4 bracket.

Thank you.

I have the heatsink (not sure of the model anymore, but it is a noctua and has two fans) from the old 970 build, but it is an intel build so I will not have the right bracket, so do I just put on some thermal paste and put the heatsink with fans on top with nothing but the weight of the heasink and fans to ensure good contact? (just to get into the bios and make sure the CPU and RAM are working)

Thanks again!

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1 hour ago, -Arcanum- said:

Forgive me if these are entry-level questions...

 

I have received my 5900X, but expect to have to wait a while before my 3090 will be delivered (supplier claimed to have it in stock so I ordered everything, but of course it was not in stock). 

Long story short, in a couple of days I will have my mobo (Aorus x570 Master), my RAM (G.skill trident neo), case, AIO, etc. but I will not be able to build the system as I will be missing the GPU, but I would like to test my CPU and RAM - by testing I mean make sure they are working, not benchmarking them...  

I have a (very old) GTX970 GPU and was wondering:

  1. Can I simply update the mobo bios, stick the CPU and ram in and add the GTX970 and see whether it posts? (am I correct in understanding that if it posts, then I should be able to see that the CPU and RAM work)
  2. Can I do this outside the case (e.g. on the mobo box)? (I would prefer to build the entire system once I have the GPU)
  3. Can I do this without adding the AIO cooling for the CPU (e.g. by pointing a fan at the CPU), given that I just want to make sure that it posts? (I would prefer not mounting the AIO before I have the GPU in order to be able to see how it can actually fit)
  4. Is there anything important that I should keep in mind while trying to do this?

Thanks a lot in advance :) 

I logged in and i haven't been on in weeks just to make sure that you DO NOT power on that 550$ CPU for even a few min without some kind of cooler i don't even care if you have a cheapo one on their at least do something do not let it on without one please. 

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12 minutes ago, -Arcanum- said:

Thank you.

I have the heatsink (not sure of the model anymore, but it is a noctua and has two fans) from the old 970 build, but it is an intel build so I will not have the right bracket, so do I just put on some thermal paste and put the heatsink with fans on top with nothing but the weight of the heasink and fans to ensure good contact? (just to get into the bios and make sure the CPU and RAM are working)

Thanks again!

Yes that is even fine but make sure its stable also why even do this at all? The odds of having a bad CPU is extremely slim and the ram will boot just fine at 2133mhz and you own a x570 board. 

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