What is the difference in speed between 3800-C14 and 3600-C14 and 3600-C16? (Ram)

[rickje139]

I was wondering what the difference in performance and latency is between these modules with E-xmp enabled.

3800-C14

3600-C14

3600-C16

 

Im planning on upgrading my ram for the best possible experience possible and if the performance is a lot higher, i dont really care about the high prices, but if its not that much, i might go for c16.

 

Motherboard im going to get: MSI X570 unify
CPU im going to get: 5900X

[Moonzy]

depends on application

 

for games, i would be surprised you can tell them apart in a blind test, even 3200 cl16

[Downkey]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

I was wondering what the difference in performance and latency is between these modules with E-xmp enabled.

3800-C14

3600-C14

3600-C16

 

Im planning on upgrading my ram for the best possible experience possible and if the performance is a lot higher, i dont really care about the high prices, but if its not that much, i might go for c16.

Just go for 3600 CL16. The sweet spot rn for RAM

[rickje139]

Just now, Moonzy said:

depends on application

 

for games, i would be surprised you can tell them apart in a blind test, even 3200 cl16

In VR, latency is quite noticeable.

I play VR a lot too and the latency is quite noticeable for me and making me sick when its really bad.

[DoctorNick]

Thats a really open question. What platform are you on? Eg. specs would be nice. If you have 3600 CL16 then it's pretty good. You might even be able to overclock to CL14@3800mhz.

[DoctorNick]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

In VR, latency is quite noticeable.

I play VR a lot too and the latency is quite noticeable for me and making me sick when its really bad.

I doubt you can feel memory latency. Are you sure it's not input lag?

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

In VR, latency is quite noticeable.

I play VR a lot too and the latency is quite noticeable for me and making me sick when its really bad.

latency of headset sure

but latency of RAM diference is in few nanoseconds, i doubt u can perceive it

 

VR headset is 144hz at best, which is... 7ms? or 7 000 000ns

[rickje139]

1 minute ago, DoctorNick said:

Thats a really open question. What platform are you on? Eg. specs would be nice. If you have 3600 CL16 then it's pretty good. You might even be able to overclock to CL14@3800mhz.

Im going to be switching to AMD because my current CPU is bottlenecking my experience together with my current motherboard. (they were kinda cheap)

 

However, i do have the money to buy the ram sticks if the performance would smoothen my experience really well.

 

[rickje139]

2 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

I doubt you can feel memory latency. Are you sure it's not input lag?

I am feeling lagspikes a bit too, the 1%low is really bad for me as of now and i want it to be as good as possible.

[DoctorNick]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

Im going to be switching to AMD because my current CPU is bottlenecking my experience together with my current motherboard. (they were kinda cheap)

 

However, i do have the money to buy the ram sticks if the performance would smoothen my experience really well.

 

If you're going for the new 5000 series, then consider getting 4 sticks of memory more than faster ones. 3200 CL14, 3600 CL16 should be just fine. Of course higher is better, but not that much. But compared to two sticks at higher clock speed, then it's better.

[DoctorNick]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

I am feeling lagspikes a bit too, the 1%low is really bad for me as of now and i want it to be as good as possible.

That's cpu bottleneck

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, rickje139 said:

i want it to be as good as possible.

then grab the 3600cl14

i mean, we already said it's not much difference but if you want the best, that's the best in your options

 

cpu cores/thread is more important than RAM latency, after all

[rickje139]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

then grab the 3600cl14

i mean, we already said it's not much difference but if you want the best, that's the best in your options

 

cpu cores/thread is more important than RAM latency, after all

What about the 3800cl14 variant? Would that work on the system or would it fail?

I heard AMD is maxed out at 3733, so i dont know if its going to perform any better or smoother.

 

I might get 3800cl14 if 3600cl14 is out of stock, it depends on which one is available first.

 

Im getting 32GB's, (yes that much)

I want to build the best pc for the long term so i dont have to upgrade a lot anymore in the future.

 

[rickje139]

6 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

then grab the 3600cl14

i mean, we already said it's not much difference but if you want the best, that's the best in your options

 

cpu cores/thread is more important than RAM latency, after all

What about the voltage? Isn't 1.5V bad for memory sticks?

How long would these ram sticks last?

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, rickje139 said:

What about the 3800cl14 variant? Would that work on the system or would it fail?

I heard AMD is maxed out at 3733, so i dont know if its going to perform any better or smoother.

 

I might get 3800cl14 if 3600cl14 is out of stock, it depends on which one is available first.

 

Im getting 32GB's, (yes that much)

I want to build the best pc for the long term so i dont have to upgrade a lot anymore in the future.

 

Get the 3800 C14, it's the fastest of the bunch you list.

 

32GB is the amount of RAM to buy when building a new rig right now, it's nothing special.

[Moonzy]

4 minutes ago, rickje139 said:

What about the 3800cl14 variant? Would that work on the system or would it fail?

im not too sure about zen 3's IMC capabilities, too little people have them yet

 

4 minutes ago, rickje139 said:

Im getting 32GB's, (yes that much)

you're looking at dual rank config minimum, which may limit your frequency

i would look around to see what are the new cpu's IMC's capability in this case

as some zen 2 cant run dual rank at 3600

[rickje139]

20 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

im not too sure about zen 3's IMC capabilities, too little people have them yet

 

you're looking at dual rank config minimum, which may limit your frequency

i would look around to see what are the new cpu's IMC's capability in this case

as some zen 2 cant run dual rank at 3600

I heard this ram was optimized for the 5000 series.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-Trident-3800MHz-PC4-30400-Channel/dp/B081F5Z8SC

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gskill-trident-z-neo-ram-amd-ryzen-5000-cpus

Could i trust this or is there still a chance this might not work for me?

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, rickje139 said:

I heard this ram was optimized for the 5000 series.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-Trident-3800MHz-PC4-30400-Channel/dp/B081F5Z8SC

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gskill-trident-z-neo-ram-amd-ryzen-5000-cpus

Could i trust this or is there still a chance this might not work for me?

RAM is RAM, there's no "optimised" afaik

im not really that into RAM, so idk what are the capabilities of zen 3, and anything above the official spec isnt guaranteed anyways

 

idk what's zen 3's officially supported memory speed...

[WhitetailAni]

6 hours ago, Moonzy said:

RAM is RAM, there's no "optimised" afaik

im not really that into RAM, so idk what are the capabilities of zen 3, and anything above the official spec isnt guaranteed anyways

 

idk what's zen 3's officially supported memory speed...

According to AMD it is up to 3200 MHz.

Really?

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