16GB DDR3 1866MHz CL9-10-9-27 or 16GB DDR3 2133MHz CL10-12-12-31

[letsplaysims3]

Hi Folks,

My current rig is

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Mem: Corsair Dominator 2x4GB DDR3@1866MHz C9-10-9-27
Cooling: Corsair H60 Hydro Series 120MM AIO
Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe
GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX RX 570 4GB O/C *very good card

I find it still very capable for some old games and use it for gaming mainly, no media creation that sort of tasks. As such I like to revamp it with a brand new case. In retrospect, when I put together this machine, I was a bit on a budget so it was setup with only 4x2GB = 8GB (Dual channel). It was pricy at the time DDR3 was.

I want to upgrade the memory capacity and would like to get some of your advices and recommendations.

Performance-wise, would increasing 8GB to16GB make any difference when gaming? If yes, then will 2133MHz with the timing 10-12-12-31 be faster than my current 1866MHz with timing 9-10-9-27?

Thanks for your advice in advance!

 

[RAS_3885]

2 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

Hi Folks,

My current rig is

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Mem: Corsair Dominator 2x4GB DDR3@1866MHz C9-10-9-27
Cooling: Corsair H60 Hydro Series 120MM AIO
Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe
GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX RX 570 4GB O/C *very good card

I find it still very capable for some old games and use it for gaming mainly, no media creation that sort of tasks. As such I like to revamp it with a brand new case. In retrospect, when I put together this machine, I was a bit on a budget so it was setup with only 4x2GB = 8GB (Dual channel). It was pricy at the time DDR3 was.

I want to upgrade the memory capacity and would like to get some of your advices and recommendations.

Performance-wise, would increasing 8GB to16GB make any difference when gaming? If yes, then will 2133MHz with the timing 10-12-12-31 be faster than my current 1866MHz with timing 9-10-9-27?

Thanks for your advice in advance!

 

If you aren't currently using all 8 GB of system RAM you have then increasing capacity to 16 GB will not improve performance for gaming.

 

Also, you're on a pretty old platform so I don't think you'll see a major performance difference between those two RAM kits. With that being said, if you do buy one of them, I'd get the 2133 kit.

[letsplaysims3]

For 2133, I have found a kit the timing is 9-11-11-31, is this timing better than 10-12-12-30?

[Jurrunio]

19 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

If yes, then will 2133MHz with the timing 10-12-12-31 be faster than my current 1866MHz with timing 9-10-9-27?

Not very different with.only an RX 570, not.enough GPU.power to make the minor.increase in memory bandwidth (caused by increased frequency) do anything meaningful)

[letsplaysims3]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Not very different with.only an RX 570, not.enough GPU.power to make the minor.increase in memory bandwidth (caused by increased frequency) do anything meaningful)

I see you yourself is using a 2x8GB kit. So any games which use memory beyond 8GB in your case?

[SkilledRebuilds]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Not very different with.only an RX 570, not.enough GPU.power to make the minor.increase in memory bandwidth (caused by increased frequency) do anything meaningful)

This.
It might net you a couple frames or another 5-8 frames game to game with a much Faster GPU like a 2080TI/3070+ at 1080p where FPS wasn't really a concern anyway.
It might only give you 0.5-2fps increase because you were already primarily GPU bound (RX570 Medium-Ultra details in varied games)

[letsplaysims3]

Seems more on the nah side 

 

Maybe I should save the money, the kits are nearly $100, not cheap.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

I see you yourself is using a 2x8GB kit. So any games which use memory beyond 8GB in your case?

Pretty much all recent triple A games will go beyond 8GB, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Final Fantasy 15... but then I tend to have a lot of background stuff running so with better housekeeping (than none :P) you should be able to make do with 8GB for now.

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

Hi Folks,

Performance-wise, would increasing 8GB to16GB make any difference when gaming?

If yes, then will 2133MHz with the timing 10-12-12-31 be faster than my current 1866MHz with timing 9-10-9-27?

Thanks for your advice in advance!

 

Depends on what operating system and the memory usage. If the system often tells you the memory is getting low, then yes get more.

 

However, the performance will not be better with looser timing sets. your current memory may very well overclock to 2133mhz at the 9-10-9-27-36 timings. Up to 1.65v is ok. 

 

My old Corsair Mushkin Redlines would do 2200mhz 9-10-9-27-36 at 1.65v so it's a good figure and the memory won't run too warm. At 1.7v you want a fan on the memory. 

 

(I actually have a set of Dominators as well  )

[letsplaysims3]

Thanks for reminding I have forgotten memory can be overclocked.

 

 

I have found another USEFUL info here https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/max-memory-speed-for-i5-3570k.2466292/

 

If I am not overclocking then what I have got right now seems to be just about right EXCEPT the capacity. Hard to find CL9 DDR3 now.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

Thanks for reminding I have forgotten memory can be overclocked.

 

 

I have found another USEFUL info here https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/max-memory-speed-for-i5-3570k.2466292/

 

If I am not overclocking then what I have got right now seems to be just about right EXCEPT the capacity. Hard to find CL9 DDR3 now.

My best answer... For it's time a stout system indeed. 

Really just get what you need. I wouldn't worry much on the high speed and timings. You probably hurt for capacity if running W10.

[letsplaysims3]

5 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

My best answer... For it's time a stout system indeed. 

Really just get what you need. I wouldn't worry much on the high speed and timings. You probably hurt for capacity if running W10.

Yes, I love this system despite I have a new rig built last November which is a 9600K based on ROG STRIX Z390-F, the BIOS is much easier to go XMP.

 

Just now I returned from going into the BIOS but couldn't find the XMP button.

 

BUT really like to see if 16GB would help the overall performance like loading speed ...

[Guest]

1 minute ago, letsplaysims3 said:

BUT really like to see if 16GB would help the overall performance like loading speed ...

Well what are the hard drives? Spinners? Maybe upgrade to an SSD. You can clone the operating system, that shouldn't be an issue. 

[letsplaysims3]

Found the XMP. It's a beauty! But it also overclocks the CPU to 4.1!! I didn't mean that. Fortunately, the temperature only rises by 8 degrees.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, letsplaysims3 said:

Found the XMP. It's a beauty! But it also overclocks the CPU to 4.1!! I didn't mean that. Fortunately, the temperature only rises by 8 degrees.

!!!  !!! Now you're cookin! 

[andypouch]

So should I spend money to expand the capacity to 16GB?