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12 hours ago, David1521 said:

Is it worth it to wait for the newer motherboard?

For an extra $40 over the Hero (WiFi), you get an improved VRM design, a removed chipset fan, and an all black aesthetic. Honestly, I'm getting one over the Strix simply for the aesthetic and fanless chipset (the extra USB ports too but I was fine with the Strix tbh).

 

As far as availability, I haven't seen anything solid. The only information I've seen was from an ASUS rep on reddit, stating availability towards the later part of the 1st week in November or some time during the 2nd week.

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I managed to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x to upgrade from my i7 6800k. So now I need a motherboard and I am wanting to know what the difference is between the Asus Hero and the new Dark Hero that is supposed to be released this month. My processor is backordered from B&H anyways so I may be waiting a while.

 

Is it worth it to wait for the newer motherboard?

 

Here are the two links:

 

https://rog.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-Model/

 

https://rog.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Dark-Hero-Model/

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18 minutes ago, David1521 said:

I managed to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x to upgrade from my i7 6800k. So now I need a motherboard and I am wanting to know what the difference is between the Asus Hero and the new Dark Hero that is supposed to be released this month. My processor is backordered from B&H anyways so I may be waiting a while.

 

Is it worth it to wait for the newer motherboard?

 

Here are the two links:

 

https://rog.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-Model/

 

https://rog.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Dark-Hero-Model/

Biggest feature of the Dark Hero that I know of is the passive heatsink on the chipset. No annoying little fans.

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2 hours ago, svmlegacy said:

Biggest feature of the Dark Hero that I know of is the passive heatsink on the chipset. No annoying little fans.

How bad are those little fans' noise?

CPU: i7 6800k @ 4.1ghz | Motherboard: Asus Rampage V Edition 10 | RAM: 64 GB 2400Mhz DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum | GPU: GTX 2080 ti Zotac AMP | CASE: Corsair 780T | Storage: 2TB Samsung 970 Evo, 512GB Samsung 950 Pro m.2 Nvme SSD, Samsung 950 Pro 1TB SSD, Seagate 7200rpm 1TB HDD, Seagate 5TB external HDD | PSU: EVGA 850watt G2 | Displays (3): Samsung Odyssey G70 32 inch 1440p 240hz Monitor 1ms rt, LG 32MA68HY-P 32-Inch IPS Monitor, LG 43UD79-B 43" 16:9 4K IPS Monitor | CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i | Keyboard: Razer Huntsman Mini, Razer Huntsman Elite | Mice: Logitech G502 HERO wireless, Roccat Leadr | Headphones: Sennheiser HD 700, Hifiman HE1000 V2, Oppo PM3s | DAC/AMP and USB audio enhancers: Schiit Gungnir Multibit, Schiit Mjolnir 2, Sennheiser HD 700, Oppo HA-2 Headphone amplifier, Schiit USB Decrapifier | Webcam: Logitech BRIO 4k | Speakers: Klipsch The Sixes Powered Monitors and MartinLogan Dynamo 300 Stereo Subwoofer with Creative Sound Blaster E5 High-Resolution USB DAC to run them both at the same time. And an Amazon Echo linked at the same time to these speakers via bluetooth on the sound blaster. | Microphone and DAC/AMP: Blue yeti pro, and Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (2nd Gen) | Router and Modem: Asus rog rapture GT-AC5300, and ARRIS SURFboard SB8200

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4 minutes ago, David1521 said:

How bad are those little fans' noise?

Couldn't tell ya personally, I run a X470 board. Some people complain about it but a majority don't. Most boards allow you to control the fan curve for it.

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I called B&H and they have no listing for it currently, however I googled it and several european websites already have it listed and available to be delivered. How much longer do you guys expect it to be before it's available for us here in the US?

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2 hours ago, David1521 said:

How bad are those little fans' noise?

Not bad at all. I have mine on an extremely aggressive fan curve, and have yet to hear it except on startup or reboot. (and that's only for about 3 seconds total)

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Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

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11 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Not bad at all. I have mine on an extremely aggressive fan curve, and have yet to hear it except on startup or reboot. (and that's only for about 3 seconds total)

Do you have the Asus x570 Hero?

CPU: i7 6800k @ 4.1ghz | Motherboard: Asus Rampage V Edition 10 | RAM: 64 GB 2400Mhz DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum | GPU: GTX 2080 ti Zotac AMP | CASE: Corsair 780T | Storage: 2TB Samsung 970 Evo, 512GB Samsung 950 Pro m.2 Nvme SSD, Samsung 950 Pro 1TB SSD, Seagate 7200rpm 1TB HDD, Seagate 5TB external HDD | PSU: EVGA 850watt G2 | Displays (3): Samsung Odyssey G70 32 inch 1440p 240hz Monitor 1ms rt, LG 32MA68HY-P 32-Inch IPS Monitor, LG 43UD79-B 43" 16:9 4K IPS Monitor | CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i | Keyboard: Razer Huntsman Mini, Razer Huntsman Elite | Mice: Logitech G502 HERO wireless, Roccat Leadr | Headphones: Sennheiser HD 700, Hifiman HE1000 V2, Oppo PM3s | DAC/AMP and USB audio enhancers: Schiit Gungnir Multibit, Schiit Mjolnir 2, Sennheiser HD 700, Oppo HA-2 Headphone amplifier, Schiit USB Decrapifier | Webcam: Logitech BRIO 4k | Speakers: Klipsch The Sixes Powered Monitors and MartinLogan Dynamo 300 Stereo Subwoofer with Creative Sound Blaster E5 High-Resolution USB DAC to run them both at the same time. And an Amazon Echo linked at the same time to these speakers via bluetooth on the sound blaster. | Microphone and DAC/AMP: Blue yeti pro, and Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (2nd Gen) | Router and Modem: Asus rog rapture GT-AC5300, and ARRIS SURFboard SB8200

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51 minutes ago, David1521 said:

Do you have the Asus x570 Hero?

No, but the fan design is effectively the same as mine. (system in signature)

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

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12 hours ago, David1521 said:

Is it worth it to wait for the newer motherboard?

For an extra $40 over the Hero (WiFi), you get an improved VRM design, a removed chipset fan, and an all black aesthetic. Honestly, I'm getting one over the Strix simply for the aesthetic and fanless chipset (the extra USB ports too but I was fine with the Strix tbh).

 

As far as availability, I haven't seen anything solid. The only information I've seen was from an ASUS rep on reddit, stating availability towards the later part of the 1st week in November or some time during the 2nd week.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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der8auer claims the DARK HERO has a NEW OC mode where when a CPU CURRENT draw is passed it will then apply an all core OC and below the settable limit it will keep the single core BOOST and that ALONE would be worth $40 quid 

memory express in Canada does NOT list the DARK yet

caseking DE also does NOT list it and DER8AUER is affiliated with them so I would assume they would be one of the first to list it 

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On 11/6/2020 at 2:59 PM, richmond2000 said:

der8auer claims the DARK HERO has a NEW OC mode where when a CPU CURRENT draw is passed it will then apply an all core OC and below the settable limit it will keep the single core BOOST and that ALONE would be worth $40 quid 

memory express in Canada does NOT list the DARK yet

caseking DE also does NOT list it and DER8AUER is affiliated with them so I would assume they would be one of the first to list it 

THIS is the reason to get the Dark.  You'll get full speed in games (single core) and productivity (multi thread) without having to fiddle with the OC settings all the time.  I wonder if they'll bring this feature to other boards in their lineup via firmware update.

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Still cannot find the Dark Hero anywhere in the US online or in store. Listed in some European online retailers though.

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On 11/6/2020 at 5:59 PM, richmond2000 said:

der8auer claims the DARK HERO has a NEW OC mode where when a CPU CURRENT draw is passed it will then apply an all core OC and below the settable limit it will keep the single core BOOST and that ALONE would be worth $40 quid 

 

Yep! If I were in the market for a board, this would defo be worth the money for a Zen 3 CPU. 

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6 hours ago, David1521 said:

Still cannot find the Dark Hero anywhere in the US online or in store. Listed in some European online retailers though.

 

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On 11/5/2020 at 9:12 PM, David1521 said:

How bad are those little fans' noise?

It makes normally without additional CPU fans, graphics card, AIO, CPU cooler. It makes it impossible to hear basically 

 

 

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You may hear it a bit on bootup, but that's minimal (I use it myself)

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I own Hero (none Dark) no issues at all.

I don't even hear the fan because I have other fans inside case.

The only issue which sucks is that the long GPUs will cover the ehaust from chipset fan.

 

 

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