CPU to pair with 3080

[xReqt]

Hi,

 

Is the Ryzen 7 3700x good to pair with a 3080 as Im building a new PC for myself and I have around 300 pounds left for a processor and its comes to around 270 on amazon. My goal is 144hz 1080p gaming which will soon turn to 1440p starting around March 2021.

 

(I use Amazon UK and Overclockers UK for online purchases in the UK)

 

I'd also need a motherboard around £100-130 at most.

 

Any help is appreciated 

[Kanna]

Yes it's a good pair even a 3600 could work

[Mateyyy]

I'd probably wait for the 5600X, if your main goal is gaming performance (if AMD's reveal event was anything to go by).

It's releasing in a couple of days.

 

7 minutes ago, xReqt said:

I'd also need a motherboard around £100-130 at most.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hrCFf7/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus (currently looks to be discounted, it's usually sitting around the 140-150 quid mark)

[Stahlmann]

The upcoming 5600X will be better when you are mainly gaming. Release is planned for thursday this week.

[xReqt]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I'd probably wait for the 5600X, if your main goal is gaming performance (if AMD's reveal event was anything to go by).

It's releasing in a couple of days.

 

 

I heard all processors they're launching with that over 6 cores are going to be like 400+ pounds in which case I won't be able to afford. @Mateyyy

[Stahlmann]

1 minute ago, xReqt said:

I heard all processors they're launching with that over 6 cores are going to be like 400+ pounds in which case I won't be able to afford. @Mateyyy

The 5600X will launch at 299$ so it will be in-budget. And 6 cores is more than enough for gaming. Only go for 8 or more cores if you know you can utilize them.

[Mateyyy]

8 minutes ago, xReqt said:

I heard all processors they're launching with that over 6 cores are going to be like 400+ pounds in which case I won't be able to afford. @Mateyyy

The 5600X's MSRP is $299.

overclockers.co.uk seems to have it listed for 290 quid: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-six-core-4.6ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3cc-am.html

 

If reviews show that the gaming performance of Zen 3 is not really all that AMD made it up to be and/or prices are way over MSRP, I'd go with a 10600K or the 3700X you're currently looking at if you're set on it (Zen 2 shouldn't hold the 3080 back that much especially once you upgrade to 1440p).

[xReqt]

Just now, Stahlmann said:

The 5600X will launch at 299$ so it will be in-budget. And 6 cores is more than enough for gaming. Only go for 8 or more cores if you know you can utilize them.

I am pretty adamite on the ryzen 7 3700x.I just needed to know if its decent to pair with  the 3080 and last 3 years (My goal is not another upgrade for at least that long) I have already 16gb DDR4 3000MHZ. The 8 cores will future proof a bit as well as I play CPU intense games so im sure that will help slightly.

[Stahlmann]

7 minutes ago, xReqt said:

I am pretty adamite on the ryzen 7 3700x.I just needed to know if its decent to pair with  the 3080 and last 3 years (My goal is not another upgrade for at least that long) I have already 16gb DDR4 3000MHZ. The 8 cores will future proof a bit as well as I play CPU intense games so im sure that will help slightly.

Well then, if you're set on the 3700X, go for it. I'm currently using one myself and it's great overall, even combined with my 3080. But i'll be "downgrading" to a 5600X when it launches because i have yet to see any game making use of my 8 cores. I'd rather have the 6 much faster cores. I should still be able to flip the 3700X for ~200€ afterwards.

 

EDIT: Afaik most of the leaked benchmarks point towards the 5600X being at least comparable to the 3700X even in multithreaded workloads. So i basically wouldn't recommend it over the 5600X in pretty much any case. I'd just wait a few more days until the benchmarks are out.

[Ankh Tech]

7 minutes ago, xReqt said:

I am pretty adamite on the ryzen 7 3700x.I just needed to know if its decent to pair with  the 3080 and last 3 years (My goal is not another upgrade for at least that long) I have already 16gb DDR4 3000MHZ. The 8 cores will future proof a bit as well as I play CPU intense games so im sure that will help slightly.

Well, if you buy the 5600x then I'd recommend faster ram, will slightly help in performance

[xReqt]

@Ankh tech tips @Stahlmann @Mateyyy Thanks for the help. What cooler do you recommend for both 3700x and 5600x (I will look at benchmarks and make my decision on which one i'd like when available) I don't mind AIO or AIR cooling budget would be around 80-100 pounds amazon uk or overclockers uk 

[Ankh Tech]

1 minute ago, xReqt said:

@Ankh tech tips @Stahlmann @Mateyyy Thanks for the help. What cooler do you recommend for both 3700x and 5600x (I will look at benchmarks and make my decision on which one i'd like when available) I don't mind AIO or AIR cooling budget would be around 80-100 pounds amazon uk or overclockers uk 

h150i rgb pro xt for aio

nh-d15 for air

[Stahlmann]

6 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Ankh tech tips @Stahlmann @Mateyyy Thanks for the help. What cooler do you recommend for both 3700x and 5600x (I will look at benchmarks and make my decision on which one i'd like when available) I don't mind AIO or AIR cooling budget would be around 80-100 pounds amazon uk or overclockers uk 

For air cooling the best ones in your budget (and best overall) are:

Noctua NH-D15

Noctua NH-U12A

be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Arctic Freezer 50

(They're all very similar in terms of noise/performance, pick whatever fits your build.)

 

For AIOs the best ones in your budget are:

EK-Aio 240mm (could be a little over-budget)

Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 / 280

(These 2 are noticeable better than most other similar sized AIOs. Most other AIOs perform about the same as they all use the same pump/coldplate)

[Stahlmann]

SNIP - Accidentally double posted.

[xReqt]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-black-dual-tower-cooler/dp/B07Y87YHRH/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=nh-d15&qid=1604310506&s=computers&sr=1-4 Has it got good ram clearance (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3200C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16GB+DDR4+3200&qid=1604309460&sr=8-3) this is the ram I'll be buying along with it. @Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips I also want to know if 3200mhz is good enough or will I have to go higher if so then what do you recommend (I don't plan on getting anymore then  16gb as I heard its pretty useless  gaming wise)

[Ankh Tech]

Just now, xReqt said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-black-dual-tower-cooler/dp/B07Y87YHRH/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=nh-d15&qid=1604310506&s=computers&sr=1-4 Has it got good ram clearance (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3200C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16GB+DDR4+3200&qid=1604309460&sr=8-3) this is the ram I'll be buying along with it. @Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips I also want to know if 3200mhz is good enough or will I have to go higher if so then what do you recommend (I don't plan on getting anymore then  16gb as I heard its pretty useless  gaming wise)

@xReqtIt does, I recommend 3600mhz for ryzen 3000, and higher never hurts

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, xReqt said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-black-dual-tower-cooler/dp/B07Y87YHRH/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=nh-d15&qid=1604310506&s=computers&sr=1-4 Has it got good ram clearance (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3200C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16GB+DDR4+3200&qid=1604309460&sr=8-3) this is the ram I'll be buying along with it. @Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips I also want to know if 3200mhz is good enough or will I have to go higher if so then what do you recommend (I don't plan on getting anymore then  16gb as I heard its pretty useless  gaming wise)

The cooler has very tight ram clearance, but as you'll be going with corsair LPX memory, you're fine. I'd go with 3600MHz cl18 or cl16 RAM for either the 3700X or 5600X to get optimal performance.

[xReqt]

@Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-29200c18-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-4a5-cs.html so this would be the most optimal alongside https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Motherboard-Type-C-DisplayPort-Generation/dp/B08BCQF1BD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 and also would this PSU be decent (not much stock of psu's in the UK pretty poor amount) https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx850m-semi-modular-atx-psu-850-w-10191072-pdt.html (This is the semi modular version though there is a modular its only to collect so I will get which ever one is in stock)

 

Is there anything I should change about these choices?

[Mateyyy]

13 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Ankh tech tips @Stahlmann @Mateyyy Thanks for the help. What cooler do you recommend for both 3700x and 5600x (I will look at benchmarks and make my decision on which one i'd like when available) I don't mind AIO or AIR cooling budget would be around 80-100 pounds amazon uk or overclockers uk 

Air:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PxtKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00075a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HtzFf7/arctic-freezer-50-cpu-cooler-acfre00065a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZLtQzy/noctua-nh-u12a-6009-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/84MTwP/noctua-nh-d15-chromaxblack-8252-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-d15-chromaxblack

 

CLC AIOs:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/svkgXL/ek-ek-aio-240-d-rgb-6604-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-240-d-rgb

 

Really though, going with the Freezer 34 Esports Duo and putting the leftover cash towards better storage, memory, PSU, you name it, would probably make the most sense. 

The 3700X (and 5600X if AMD's claim that it'll pull about the same power as its Zen 2 predecessor is true) really don't put out a lot of heat, and the Freezer 34 is a really solid cooler for the price.

[Ankh Tech]

3 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-29200c18-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-4a5-cs.html so this would be the most optimal alongside https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Motherboard-Type-C-DisplayPort-Generation/dp/B08BCQF1BD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 and also would this PSU be decent (not much stock of psu's in the UK pretty poor amount) https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx850m-semi-modular-atx-psu-850-w-10191072-pdt.html (This is the semi modular version though there is a modular its only to collect so I will get which ever one is in stock)

 

Is there anything I should change about these choices?

Yes all of this is great

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Stahlmann @Ankh tech tips https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-29200c18-3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-4a5-cs.html so this would be the most optimal alongside https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Motherboard-Type-C-DisplayPort-Generation/dp/B08BCQF1BD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 and also would this PSU be decent (not much stock of psu's in the UK pretty poor amount) https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx850m-semi-modular-atx-psu-850-w-10191072-pdt.html (This is the semi modular version though there is a modular its only to collect so I will get which ever one is in stock)

 

Is there anything I should change about these choices?

Looks fine to me. 

[xReqt]

@Stahlmann I just seen this cooler for the first time and it looks amazing though does it perform equal or even better then the D15 and will it leak (never used AIO other then corsair no issues so far) https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07XLM5FV8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2ZBTJZMSBOV88&dchild=1&keywords=arctic+freezer+aio&qid=1604311666&s=computers&sprefix=artic+freezer%2Ccomputers%2C150&sr=1-2

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Stahlmann I just seen this cooler for the first time and it looks amazing though does it perform equal or even better then the D15 and will it leak (never used AIO other then corsair no issues so far)

Which one do you mean? The EK-AIO? It's still very new so there are no long-term reviews of it yet. But as EK is a giant in terms of custom water cooling i guess they know what they're doing. But in terms of performance and noise it's a chart topper.

[Mateyyy]

12 minutes ago, xReqt said:

and also would this PSU be decent (not much stock of psu's in the UK pretty poor amount) https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx850m-semi-modular-atx-psu-850-w-10191072-pdt.html 

I would suggest getting a higher quality 750W unit instead:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wmJkcf/bitfenix-whisper-m-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bp-wg750umag-7fm

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/79tQzy/corsair-rmx-2018-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020179-na

 

The TXM is not a bad unit, make no mistake, it's just that the Whisper M and RMx (which are around the same price going by PCPP) are much quieter, while also being superior overall in terms of quality and performance.

[xReqt]

9 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Which one do you mean? The EK-AIO? It's still very new so there are no long-term reviews of it yet. But as EK is a giant in terms of custom water cooling i guess they know what they're doing. But in terms of performance and noise it's a chart topper.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07XLM5FV8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2ZBTJZMSBOV88&dchild=1&keywords=arctic+freezer+aio&qid=1604311666&s=computers&sprefix=artic+freezer%2Ccomputers%2C150&sr=1-2 @Stahlmann