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PCIe 4.0 SSD's

Stahlmann

Hello good people,

 

if i were to buy a PCIe 4.0 SSD, which ones can i choose from?

 

The ones i know of:

Sabrent Rocket 4.0

Samsung 980 Pro

Corsair MP600

Gigabyte Aorus NVMe Gen4

Seagate Firecuda 520

 

Are there any more i don't know of yet? (WD, ADATA, etc...)

Are there significant differences or is it safe to say go for the cheapest at said capacity if i were to buy one?

 

Disclaimer: I'll not buy any of these, so i don't need a discussion if i need one or not for my needs and workloads. Just interested what all the options are out there.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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1 minute ago, Shimejii said:

a super low end PCIE 4 SSD o.o

only kind you might be able to get would be a dram less one

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Just now, GoodEnough said:

only kind you might be able to get would be a dram less one

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

I mean those are pretty much the ones that most people buy. Really isnt a point in buying a super low end PCIE 4 SSD o.o

I mean IS there really a low-end PCIe 4.0 SSD? Aren't they pretty much all the same?

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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Just now, Stahlmann said:

I mean IS there really a low-end PCIe 4.0 SSD?

could probably find a $20 2tb one off of ebay, although if you tried using it, it will probably just explode upon use

only kind of SUPER low end ones would be the knock off sorta works sorta notta works kind of ssd

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Just now, Stahlmann said:

I mean IS there really a low-end PCIe 4.0 SSD? Aren't they pretty much all the same?

There are differences, Quality, speeds, controller, Thermals.  Samsung tends to be the Best balance of Speed and reliability, Corsair just rebrands all their crap, Think WD has a 4.0 Drive as well.

 

Generally its all about Balancing out what exactly you need and getting the best one for that. If you need the Fastest speeds AND reliablity, id go with the samsung one if you just need the best quality ones.

 

Sabrent is a good budget option, they tend to be slower, but generally a good chunk lower in price too

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Tier A (Ultra High-end)

  • Adata - S50 (Phison E16), S70 
  • Addlink - S90 (Phison E16)
  • Apacer - AS2280Q4 (Phison E16)
  • Corsair - MP600 PCIe 4.0 (Phison E16)
  • Essencore - ECT455 (Phison E16)
  • Galax - HOF Pro (Phison E16)
  • Gigabyte - AORUS PCIe 4.0 (Phison E16)
  • Goodram - IRDM Ultimate X (Phison E16)
  • Inland - Performance (Phison E16)
  • MSI - Lightning (Phison E16)
  • Patriot - Viper VP4100 (Phison E16)
  • PNY - CS4040 (Phison E16)
  • Sabrent - Rocket 4.0 (Phison E16), Rocket 4 Plus (Phison E18)
  • Samsung - 970 Pro (Samsung Phoenix), 980 Pro (Samsung Elpis)
  • Seagate - FireCuda 520 (Phison E16)
  • Silicon Power - US70 (Phison E16)
  • Team Group - Cardea Zero Z440 (Phison E16), Cadea Ceramic C440 (Phison E16)
  • Western Digital - Black SN850 (WD Proprietary)'

from those samsung 970 pro is the best

it uses MLC which is better than TLC

 

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

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6 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

I mean IS there really a low-end PCIe 4.0 SSD? Aren't they pretty much all the same?

yes but you should not get them really.

 

16 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Hello good people,

 

if i were to buy a PCIe 4.0 SSD, which ones can i choose from?

 

The ones i know of:

Sabrent Rocket 4.0

Samsung 980 Pro

Corsair MP600

Gigabyte Aorus NVMe Gen4

Seagate Firecuda 520

 

Are there any more i don't know of yet? (WD, ADATA, etc...)

Are there significant differences or is it safe to say go for the cheapest at said capacity if i were to buy one?

 

Disclaimer: I'll not buy any of these, so i don't need a discussion if i need one or not for my needs and workloads. Just interested what all the options are out there.

for mthose rocket 4.0 and mp 600 are great. 980 pro just overpriced.

 

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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10 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

only kind you might be able to get would be a dram less one

being dramless is not as important in pcie ssds because they can use system ram as cache 

if it was useful give it a like :) btw if your into linux pay a visit here

 

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3 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

 

Thanks, i didn't even know the SSD Tiel list existed! :D

But it doesn't talk about what SSD is PCIe 4.0 at all from what i see. Could be a little dangerous imo because with some SSDs you may not get the full speed if you don't have the right mobo/CPU.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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2 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Thanks, i didn't even know the SSD Tiel list existed! :D

But it doesn't talk about what SSD is PCIe 4.0 at all from what i see. Could be a little dangerous imo because with some SSDs you may not get the full speed if you don't have the right mobo/CPU.

if I remeber right the tier A was called ultra high end (pci e 4.0) or something. can not remember. Have to contact Vexicus about this.

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Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

if I remeber right the tier A was called ultra high end (pci e 4.0) or something. can not remember. Have to contact Vexicus about this.

There are a few SSDs in Tier A that are just PCIe 3.0, like the Samsung 970 pro.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

There are a few SSDs in Tier A that are just PCIe 3.0, like the Samsung 970 pro.

yeah. I contacte dVexicus about this. We need to make the list easier to read etc.

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Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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