Which PSU should I upgrade to?

[Rhaemond]

Hi, in the market for a new PSU I'm looking for the best value for money PSU... Which would be best? Preferably one that's modular and enough wattage for my future plan to get an RTX 3000 series GPU... Here would be my choices:

 

Segotep 1250W GP1350G Full Modular ATX (82.57USD) - https://shopee.ph/BF-Segotep-1250W-GP1350G-Full-Modular-ATX-PC-Computer-Mining-Power-Supply-Gaming-PSU-12V-For-AMD-Crossfire-80Plus-Gold-Active-PFC-i.308057226.6953284622

 

Gigabyte P750GM 750w 80 Plus Power Supply Gold (105.06USD) - https://shopee.ph/Gigabyte-P750GM-750-watts-80-Plus-Power-Supply-Gold-i.77398075.6153531389

 

RAIDMAX RX-800AE-M 800w 80 Plus Gold (88.12USD) - https://shopee.ph/RAIDMAX-RX-800AE-M-800w-80-Plus-Gold-Power-Supply-Unit-(PSU)-i.166897733.3907456235

 

GAMEMAX gold fully modular RGB 750w (110.65USD) - https://shopee.ph/【power】□♗☬GAMEMAX-gold-medal-game-empire-rated-550-w-whole-module-power-supply-topline-desktop-PC-i.202509590.4638545896

 

Huntkey MVP Gold K650 (82.57USD) - https://shopee.ph/Huntkey-MVP-Gold-K650-Power-Supply-with-Module-Cables-i.152919242.7852452140

 

Apexgaming AG-850M 850Watt 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular (85.67USD) - https://shopee.ph/Apexgaming-AG-850M-850Watt-80-Plus-Gold-Fully-Modular-Power-Supply-i.45576866.4049760966

 

Inwin P75 750W 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular ATX (119.52USD) - https://shopee.ph/Inwin-P75-750W-80-Plus-Gold-Certified-Modular-ATX-Power-Supply-i.62858530.3254647524 (there's also a an 850w version for a little bit more)

 

COUGAR GX1050 1050W 80+ GOLD (103.17USD) - https://shopee.ph/COUGAR-GX1050-1050W-80-GOLD-APFC-14CM-FAN-ATX12V-EPS12V-SLI-Ready-CrossFire-Ready-Power-Supply-i.14734330.5550964893

 

Gigabyte G750H (110.98USD) - https://shopee.ph/Spot◕Gigabyte-G750H-power-is-750-w-gold-desktop-computer-main-box-half-module-mute-i.213149812.7536637058

 

Xianma Gold 750W (100.14USD) - https://shopee.ph/product/213149812/3354302855?smtt=0.18685443-1602171916.9

 

Any help would be really, really appreciated. Thank you!!!

PS: Gigabyte P750GM seems to be new, can't find any reviews...

[Ankerson]

What RTX 3000 series GPU?

 

3090, 3080?

[Rhaemond]

Just now, Ankerson said:

What RTX 3000 series GPU?

 

3090, 3080?

Maybe lower than that. Honestly, my current GPU is a 1070ti I think I'll wait a bit to upgrade but atleast I'm future proofing a bit.

[HotdropHeinz]

6 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Which would be best? Preferably one that's modular and enough wattage for my future plan to get an RTX 3000 series GPU

You can check the PSU tier list here. Just take one from tier A if you want to go with 3080 or better. Take at least 700W for 3080 or 3090.

 

[Ankerson]

5 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Maybe lower than that. Honestly, my current GPU is a 1070ti I think I'll wait a bit to upgrade but atleast I'm future proofing a bit.

 

You really need to make up your mind....

 

If it's a 3090 or 3080 you can't cheap out on a PSU PERIOD.... And 750 or better yet 850W.

 

Those things are no joke with the transient power spikes.

 

You will need something from Tier A in the list here:

 

 

[Rhaemond]

3 minutes ago, HotdropHeinz said:

You can check the PSU tier list here. Just take one from tier A if you want to go with 3080 or better. Take at least 700W for 3080 or 3090.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

You really need to make up your mind....

 

If it's a 3090 or 3080 you can't cheap out on a PSU PERIOD.... And 750 or better yet 850W.

 

You will need something from Tier A in the list here:

 

 

Thank you for the advice, both of you! Unfortunately most units on the A tier are either overpriced here or not available. Maybe the Gigabyte ones fit??? How about the Segotep, Inwin, Raidmax, and Apexgaming ones?

[Ankerson]

5 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

 

Thank you for the advice, both of you! Unfortunately most units on the A tier are either overpriced here or not available. Maybe the Gigabyte ones fit??? How about the Segotep, Inwin, Raidmax, and Apexgaming ones?

 

 

Like I said, TIER A....

 

NOTHING below that.

 

The 3080's and 3090's have been shutting down PSUs that can't handle the transient power spikes.

 

There is a whole thread just on that over on the EVGA forums. Over 9 pages long so far...

[HotdropHeinz]

4 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Unfortunately most units on the A tier are either overpriced here or not available.

You can always look on the used market aswell. I just got myself a Corsair AX860W for only 75€. That PSU cost about 200€ when it was new

 

edit: Also... If you can afford a 3080 or even 3090, you should not have a problem paying 150-200USD on a good PSU

[Rhaemond]

2 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

 

Like I said, TIER A....

 

NOTHING below that.

 

The 3080's and 3090's have been shutting down PSUs that can't handle the transient power spikes.

 

There is a whole thread just on that over on the EVGA forums.

Hm... How about for the 2000 series then? Like a high end one so I can wait out till they iron out those power issues on the 3000 series. Surely their prices would be reduced to competitive values over time.

1 minute ago, HotdropHeinz said:

You can always look on the used market aswell. I just got myself a Corsair AX860W for only 75€. That PSU cost about 200€ when it was new

Kinda risky. Used PSUs here are mostly sold with hidden defects, kinda sad.

[Ankerson]

3 minutes ago, HotdropHeinz said:

You can always look on the used market aswell. I just got myself a Corsair AX860W for only 75€. That PSU cost about 200€ when it was new

 

edit: Also... If you can afford a 3080 or even 3090, you should not have a problem paying 150-200USD on a good PSU

 

It's not like they will have a choice really...

 

IF they cheap out and it shuts down they will have to spend it anyway.

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Hm... How about for the 2000 series then? Like a high end one so I can wait out till they iron out those power issues on the 3000 series. Surely their prices would be reduced to competitive values over time.

Kinda risky. Used PSUs here are mostly sold with hidden defects, kinda sad.

Like the others said, don't cheap out on a PSU. You'll regret it otherwise. When your PSU goes down, it can take the whole system (or even your house) with it. Get a good unit.

 

700W+ Tier A

 

Also, a good PSU can last you 10+ years, so think again if 50$ more will be worth it when you think about your use time. For example the Corsair RMx series has 10 years warranty.

[Ankerson]

1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

This is not a driver problem. This is just how the Ampere architecture behaves. It probably even needs these power spikes for some reason. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. Unwanted power spikes can damage GPUs, so imo if they would be unwanted, NVIDIA would have fixed these long ago.

6 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Hm... How about for the 2000 series then? Like a high end one so I can wait out till they iron out those power issues on the 3000 series. Surely their prices would be reduced to competitive values over time.

Kinda risky. Used PSUs here are mostly sold with hidden defects, kinda sad.

 

There are no power issues with the cards.

 

They are just THAT powerful and do draw a lot of power.

 

It's the PSUs that are the issue....

 

The 2080Ti's are the same deal here... Same story... High power draw. The 3080's draw more though.

[HotdropHeinz]

1 minute ago, Rhaemond said:

Kinda risky. Used PSUs here are mostly sold with hidden defects

thats always the risk when buying used, no matter the part.

2 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

so I can wait out till they iron out those power issues on the 3000 series

I actually doubt that this can be fixed with drivers.

[Stahlmann]

4 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

I can wait out till they iron out those power issues on the 3000 series.

This is not a driver problem. This is just how the Ampere architecture behaves. It probably even needs these power spikes for some reason. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. Unwanted power spikes can damage GPUs, so imo if they would be unwanted, NVIDIA would have fixed these long ago.

[Stahlmann]

6 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

There are no power issues with the cards.

 

They are just THAT powerful and do draw a lot of power.

 

It's the PSUs that are the issue....

 

The 2080Ti's are the same deal here... Same story... High power draw. The 3080's draw more though.

Just a side note, if you have a decent PSU it's not even a problem. My Rmx 650W handles my 3080 without any problems. Never saw a crash and i can confirm the GPU is working to it's full potential.

[Ankerson]

20 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

This is not a driver problem. This is just how the Ampere architecture behaves. It probably even needs these power spikes for some reason. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. Unwanted power spikes can damage GPUs, so imo if they would be unwanted, NVIDIA would have fixed these long ago.

 

What they do, the same with the 2080Ti is the GPU goes from nothing to 100% in milliseconds. And with a very large power draw well over max. So a 350W card could spike to 400W for a few milliseconds.

 

Some PSUs, especially the cheaper ones just can't handle it.

 

Those are the transient power spikes.

[Ankerson]

3 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Just a side note, if you have a decent PSU it's not even a problem. My Rmx 650W handles my 3080 without any problems. Never saw a crash and i can confirm the GPU is working to it's full potential.

 

Depends on the actual card you have.

 

My gaming load is more than 650W.... From the PSU to the system, not from the wall.

 

My 3080 is a 450W card though. 3x 8 Pin card.