Poor performance for decent build

[Abzilla]

I have an i7 4790 with a 1080 ti and my average fps is around 45 on 1080p high settings, any ideas for what the problem could be? I see my GPU reaching high 90% usage but CPU sticks around 50-60%

[SkilledRebuilds]

8 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

I have an i7 4790 with a 1080 ti and my average fps is around 45 on 1080p high settings, any ideas for what the problem could be? I see my GPU reaching high 90% usage but CPU sticks around 50-60%

Specifics...

Game in question?
To be fair its a weird pairing (NONK version of 4790+1080Ti/2080S)

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

What game? What are you temps? What are your CPU clock speeds?

[Redicat]

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[steelo]

16 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

I have an i7 4790 with a 1080 ti and my average fps is around 45 on 1080p high settings, any ideas for what the problem could be? I see my GPU reaching high 90% usage but CPU sticks around 50-60%

That is a weird pairing and I'd say, there probably is some bottlenecking. However, we need to know specs, like temps, clock speeds, utilization, etc...

[Abzilla]

It happens in GTA 5, my cpu temps do not go over 50c as its liquid cooled. Its the non-k version so it boosts upto 4GHz and has a base clock of 3.6GHz. 16 gb 1600MHz ram

 

edit: 1080ti enters low 60s while under high loads

 

2nd edit: I am also checking if a new CPU will actually be beneficial for me or a huge waste of money because if my CPU isn't bottlenecking that much then I don't know what to do.

[cr8tor]

Is the memory in the right slots for the mobo?

Nevermind, it only has 2 slots so assuming you have 2 sticks, you cant mess that up.

If you have 1 stick, then which slot is it in?

[SkilledRebuilds]

25 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

It happens in GTA 5, my cpu temps do not go over 50c as its liquid cooled. Its the non-k version so it boosts upto 4GHz and has a base clock of 3.6GHz. 16 gb 1600MHz ram

 

edit: 1080ti enters low 60s while under high loads

 

2nd edit: I am also checking if a new CPU will actually be beneficial for me or a huge waste of money because if my CPU isn't bottlenecking that much then I don't know what to do.

GTA V is NOTORIOUS for needing Singlethread performance across a Couple threads. (not all of them get loaded)
Your clockspeed limited with a 4790 (Ram is also limited to 1600Mhz on NONK, K-skew motherboards allow 1866/2133/2400Mhz Ram to be used)
My 4790K at 4.8Ghz with reduces settings (For FPS values to skyrocket) and I top out at 110-130fps (still not using the GPU to fullest)
Thats the limit of my 4.8Ghz
^Singleplayer.

Multiplayer your also at the perils of the SERVER, many threads are made on LTT for GTAV isn't running well and its the MP environment doing that.

[NetherSand]

Just now, cr8tor said:

Is the memory in the right slots for the mobo?

Yeah if it runs in single channel it may be the problem

[Abzilla]

3 minutes ago, NetherSand said:

Yeah if it runs in single channel it may be the problem

 

4 minutes ago, cr8tor said:

Is the memory in the right slots for the mobo?

Nevermind, it only has 2 slots so assuming you have 2 sticks, you cant mess that up.

If you have 1 stick, then which slot is it in?

only 2 dims and have 2 8gb sticks so cant go wrong.

4 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

GTA V is NOTORIOUS for needing Singlethread performance across a Couple threads. (not all of them get loaded)
Your clockspeed limited with a 4790
My 4790K at 4.8Ghz with reduces settings (For FPS values to skyrocket) and I top out at 110-130fps (still not using the GPU to fullest)
Thats the limit of my 4.8Ghz
^Singleplayer.

Multiplayer your also at the perils of the SERVER, many threads are made on LTT for GTAV isn't running well and its the MP environment doing that.

So the new ryzen 5800x would be a solid choice and that leaves headroom for any new GPU that i may put in down the line like a 3080 for example.

[mr fobs]

As I always say before upgrading hardware. Update your BIOS and your drivers. 

However sometimes with older cards there is a magic driver version that they run best on and new driver versions and can hurt them. I had a GTX 780Ti that was 5 years old I had to keep on a pre-VR Driver or it would cap at 40fps on games like CS:GO.

[SkilledRebuilds]

7 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

 

 

So the new ryzen 5800x would be a solid choice and that leaves headroom for any new GPU that i may put in down the line like a 3080 for example.

That will be HUGE for you. (Moreso other games using 6Threads+) but yeah, even 2Core or 4Core based games will see a nice jump there..
If you had a 4790K i'd suggest (if not a stock cooler) overclocking it to say 4.5-4.6Ghz
But not the case,.. a Ryzen 3600/3700/5600/5700 all have better IPC than Haswell, Higher clocks, memory bandwidth and an allround greater experience.

If there are any background tasks in your system tray, try reducing what you need running when playing games....
 

[Abzilla]

3 minutes ago, mr fobs said:

As I always say before upgrading hardware. Update your BIOS and your drivers. 

However sometimes with older cards there is a magic driver version that they run best on and new driver versions and can hurt them. I had a GTX 780Ti that was 5 years old I had to keep on a pre-VR Driver or it would cap at 40fps on games like CS:GO.

I have checked if there are any updates for the BIOS but the latest one was released in 2016 which i did upgrade to. I have also attempted finding the best driver for the GPU but apparently the difference is minor if any

[Abzilla]

1 minute ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

That will be HUGE for you. (Moreso other games using 6Threads+) but yeah, even 2Core or 4Core based games will see a nice jump there..
If you had a 4790K i'd suggest (if not a stock cooler) overclocking it to say 4.5-4.6Ghz
But not the case,.. a Ryzen 3600/3700/5600/5700 all have better IPC than Haswell, Higher clocks, memory bandwidth and an allround greater experience.
 

Well zen 3 is around the corner so i'd wait for that but I have heard that the i5 10600k is really solid for gaming and outperforms all ryzen CPUs. Perhaps I should wait for zen 3's benchmarks?

[SkilledRebuilds]

2 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

Well zen 3 is around the corner so i'd wait for that but I have heard that the i5 10600k is really solid for gaming and outperforms all ryzen CPUs. Perhaps I should wait for zen 3's benchmarks?

Await Zen3, compare performance vs price and yeah,.. choose based on needs.
Intel 10600K/10700K or Ryzen 5600/5700 will be great vs what you currently using.

Again, wouldn't be a big deal for the 4790 if you only had a GTX1650 but yeah, you have a beast GPU

I would hazard maybe looking up some GTAV optimization videos to see if for the meantime you could up the 45-50FPS to something better..
Or load the GPU further (Visuals increased) with the same framerates..

[Abzilla]

5 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Await Zen3, compare performance vs price and yeah,.. choose based on needs.
Intel 10600K/10700K or Ryzen 5600/5700 will be great vs what you currently using.

Again, wouldn't be a big deal for the 4790 if you only had a GTX1650 but yeah, you have a beast GPU

I would hazard maybe looking up some GTAV optimization videos to see if for the meantime you could up the 45-50FPS to something better..
Or load the GPU further (Visuals increased) with the same framerates..

Thanks, ill give it a go!

 

[Abzilla]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:36 PM, SkilledRebuilds said:

Await Zen3, compare performance vs price and yeah,.. choose based on needs.
Intel 10600K/10700K or Ryzen 5600/5700 will be great vs what you currently using.

Again, wouldn't be a big deal for the 4790 if you only had a GTX1650 but yeah, you have a beast GPU

I would hazard maybe looking up some GTAV optimization videos to see if for the meantime you could up the 45-50FPS to something better..
Or load the GPU further (Visuals increased) with the same framerates..

Heres an update, I have attached some pics of my utilisation of RDR2 on 1080p high settings.

IMG_5076.HEIC IMG_5078_2.HEIC IMG_5079.HEIC

[SkilledRebuilds]

4 minutes ago, Abzilla said:

Heres an update, I have attached some pics of my utilisation of RDR2 on 1080p high settings.

IMG_5076.HEIC 2.92 MB · 1 download IMG_5078_2.HEIC 2.61 MB · 0 downloads IMG_5079.HEIC 1.4 MB · 0 downloads

Can't open them.. what file format is that?
I don't have Photoshop or anything of that nature..

jpg will do..

[Abzilla]

7 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Can't open them.. what file format is that?
I don't have Photoshop or anything of that nature..

jpg will do..

Sorry, they were airdropped to my laptop and were put into HEIC. This should work now

[SkilledRebuilds]

The CPU can't do anything more, literally.
Your at the perils of that, and without reducing settings (less drawcalls, less usages but might only be a little gained) you kinda need a better/faster CPU for higher frames.
(you could try reducing any background apps/load) but it might only count for a few percent or less gains again.

 

[Abzilla]

2 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

The CPU can't do anything more, literally.
Your at the perils of that, and without reducing settings (less drawcalls, less usages but might only be a little gained) you kinda need a better/faster CPU for higher frames.
(you could try reducing any background apps/load) but it might only count for a few percent or less gains again.

 

Guess the CPU is the next choice