Was told to wait for AMD's announcement before buying my PC. Ordering today, any advice appreciated!

[Slyceth]

I've finished watching the presentation, and was hopeful I had to only wait 1 week for the new processors to come out, but hearing it's gonna take close to a month I can't wait much longer and need a pc tomorrow, if possible.

So I think I have 2 choices. Either I get a x570 board, the cheapest AMD CPU (3600) and upgrade to 5900 when it comes out, hoping I could sell the 3600.

Or I can get the Intel build I was sitting on, hoping that Intel will improve (I know nobody can predict the future, but isn't it very likely that Intel will keep the LGA 1200 socket, and release a cpu that's hopefully on par, maybe a tiny bit better than the 5900 in a year's time meaning I won't have to upgrade the motherboard for a while unlike AMD because they said this is the last generation they're using AM4/x570) and keep the same socket so I can upgrade in a year.

Basically my question is, what is the best value? I only use my PC for gaming. (I currently have that TUF RTX 3090, got really lucky)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor	$274.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE AC ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$209.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$168.28 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB TUF GAMING Video Card
Case	Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor	LG 27GN850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$449.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1463.08
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 12:32 EDT-0400

 

[leonardmartin29]

12 minutes ago, Slyceth said:

I've finished watching the presentation, and was hopeful I had to only wait 1 week for the new processors to come out, but hearing it's gonna take close to a month I can't wait much longer and need a pc tomorrow, if possible.

So I think I have 2 choices. Either I get a x570 board, the cheapest AMD CPU (3600) and upgrade to 5900 when it comes out, hoping I could sell the 3600.

Or I can get the Intel build I was sitting on, hoping that Intel will improve (I know nobody can predict the future, but isn't it very likely that Intel will keep the LGA 1200 socket, and release a cpu that's hopefully on par, maybe a tiny bit better than the 5900 in a year's time meaning I won't have to upgrade the motherboard for a while unlike AMD because they said this is the last generation they're using AM4/x570) and keep the same socket so I can upgrade in a year.

Basically my question is, what is the best value? I only use my PC for gaming. (I currently have that TUF RTX 3090, got really lucky)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor	$274.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE AC ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$209.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$168.28 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB TUF GAMING Video Card
Case	Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor	LG 27GN850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$449.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1463.08
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 12:32 EDT-0400

 

question are you overclocking? if not the noctua nh-u12 would be good enough for the 10600k saves a few bucks. if i was you i would get a 850 watt psu as thats what asus recomments for that gpu well for the asus tuf rtx3090 https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-RTX3090-24G-GAMING/specifications/

also better be safe than sorry. also why pair a 10600k with a rtx3090 the 3090 will be bottlenecked with that cpu i would go with at least a 10700k or more if possible. also i think that intel will be using the same lga1200 socket for rocket lake from their release the other day, whether or not it will be compatible with z490 chipset is a whole different conversation which we havnt been told yet. im also in the process of building a new pc but im doing a 10850k and a rtx3080 but i wont be upgrading for 4-5 years so i know this socket will be long gone

[Cyracus]

15 minutes ago, Slyceth said:

but isn't it very likely that Intel will keep the LGA 1200 socket

Intel has a crap track record for intergenerational compatibility, definitely wouldn't buy anything expecting intel to offer an upgrade path.

[Slyceth]

4 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

question are you overclocking? if not the noctua nh-u12 would be good enough for the 10600k saves a few bucks. if i was you i would get a 850 watt psu as thats what asus recomments for that gpu well for the asus tuf rtx3090 https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-RTX3090-24G-GAMING/specifications/

also better be safe than sorry. also why pair a 10600k with a rtx3090 the 3090 will be bottlenecked with that cpu i would go with at least a 10700k or more if possible

So what you are saying is the 10600k won't cut it? (The only reason I got a RTX 3090 is that I can't get my hands on a RTX 3080) That means I might as well go for a Ryzen 5900X, I can't waste the same amount of money on a 10900k for sure!

 

That does mean I need a Ryzen 3600x to tie me over though, right?

[leonardmartin29]

1 minute ago, Cyracus said:

Intel has a crap track record for intergenerational compatibility, definitely wouldn't buy anything expecting intel to offer an upgrade path.

intel usually keeps a socket for a couple years. but sometimes the chipset changes

[leonardmartin29]

Just now, Slyceth said:

So what you are saying is the 10600k won't cut it? (The only reason I got a RTX 3090 is that I can't get my hands on a RTX 3080) That means I might as well go for a Ryzen 5900X, I can't waste the same amount of money on a 10900k for sure!

 

That does mean I need a Ryzen 3600x to tie me over though, right?

i would suggest a 10700k if your gaming

[leonardmartin29]

5 minutes ago, Slyceth said:

So what you are saying is the 10600k won't cut it? (The only reason I got a RTX 3090 is that I can't get my hands on a RTX 3080) That means I might as well go for a Ryzen 5900X, I can't waste the same amount of money on a 10900k for sure!

 

That does mean I need a Ryzen 3600x to tie me over though, right?

the intel 10700k get 5-10% more fps in games over the 3700x for the same price.  msrp doesnt represent actual retail price. im also in canada so pricing here is way different than other countries

 

[Slyceth]

9 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Intel has a crap track record for intergenerational compatibility, definitely wouldn't buy anything expecting intel to offer an upgrade path.

Is it true that the 10600k is not going to be nearly good enough to run an RTX 3090?

[leonardmartin29]

12 minutes ago, Slyceth said:

Is it true that the 10600k is not going to be nearly good enough to run an RTX 3090?

i would do some research on the matter. i cant find any videos with a 10600k paired with a rtx3090 but maybe you would have better luck than me. or maybe some others can confirm or deny my statement

[Cyracus]

1 hour ago, Slyceth said:

Is it true that the 10600k is not going to be nearly good enough to run an RTX 3090?

10600k can match the 10900k in gaming performance, so should be fine.
If you go ryzen with the plan to upgrade to zen 3 get the 3600 to tide you over instead of the 3600x, you get similar performance for less $

[Slyceth]

2 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

10600k can match the 10900k in gaming performance, so should be fine.
If you go ryzen with the plan to upgrade to zen 3 get the 3600 to tide you over instead of the 3600x, you get similar performance for less $

There is 1 more alternative, I have an old Intel pc with a fried 980ti. It's a Z97 Gaming 5 motherboard with a 4790k and 600W and 16Gb ram. I already got my hands on the Asus TUF 3090. Should I buy a new (850W) PSU and ram, plug that in along with my 3090 into my current rig, then on the 5th of November, buy the AMD motherboard and 5900X and have a new build? Or do I risk frying that old system by plugging in a new PSU and graphics card?

[Cyracus]

1 minute ago, Slyceth said:

Or do I risk frying that old system by plugging in a new PSU and graphics card?

I wouldn't expect it to be an issue, but I've heard the 3090 exceeds the pcie power spec by ~10w, I'm not smart enough to know if that's a problem (Gamersnexus Steve said it shouldn't be)

[Slyceth]

3 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

I wouldn't expect it to be an issue, but I've heard the 3090 exceeds the pcie power spec by ~10w, I'm not smart enough to know if that's a problem (Gamersnexus Steve said it shouldn't be)

With pcie power spec you mean the plug on the motherboard right?

And powerwise, 750W is plenty I'm guessing.

[Cyracus]

3 minutes ago, Slyceth said:

With pcie power spec you mean the plug on the motherboard right?

And powerwise, 750W is plenty I'm guessing.

power delivery through the pcie slot
It depends a lot on the quality of the psu, not all 750w units are equal. I'd recommend a good 850w unit so you can ensure you don't have to buy another psu when you upgrade.

[Slyceth]

15 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

power delivery through the pcie slot
It depends a lot on the quality of the psu, not all 750w units are equal. I'd recommend a good 850w unit so you can ensure you don't have to buy another psu when you upgrade.

I think I'm getting the Corsair RM850, seems like good value and quality.