Upgrading!

[Slight43]

Ok, here it goes. Warning I tend to ramble, so I'll try to get straight to the point. 

 

As the title says, I'm finally gonna upgrade. I really don't like that the cpu I chose and had buyers remorse. 

 

First, motherboard. I want to overclock, 570 or can a 550 get me where I want to be and save a few bucks?

 

Also never have I owned a Ryzen chip. I'm getting the impression that (A) they are harder to learn/overclock?  (B) you really don't get much in the way of returns? I'm waiting for the next gen so 5000 series. I bet that won't be easy to answer. But I thought I could get a good enough answer based on previous series.

 

Would, 6 cores be enough now days? Or bite the bullet and piss off the ole wifey . Was thinking on the level of a R7 3800, but the 5000 equivalent. As they say "Future Proof". 

 

I really just don't want to jump at the first thing that catches my eye. I want to make a educated purchase this time. So that's why I'm asking questions here. Hoping I could get a good answer!

[Gorou92]

you didn't give us anything to work with

not your current specs

your budget

your use case for the pc

and if for gaming at what resolution and refresh rate

[SFFDesigns]

You've got an i7 9700K according to your profile. That is fine, don't upgrade that! See how much of an OC you can get out of it tho!

 

Your build looks good to me, but I know the buyers remorse feeling. Try to put it aside though, you've got a great build!

[SFFDesigns]

19 minutes ago, Slight43 said:

they are harder to learn/overclock

I wouldn't say harder, but less rewarding. 4.2 GHz is all I get out of my "silver" sample, which actually ends up being better than stock, but not by very much

[TetraSky]

Your PC in your profile is perfectly fine. It's barely 2 years old, if that. Only a single generation has come and gone. It is still more than capable today and is still considered "high end". You wouldn't really notice any real advantage to buying a new PC now.

You could easily do another year or two out of it, if not more depending on what you do with it. As such, you're better off not pissing off the "ole wifey" for a pointless upgrade.

[svmlegacy]

1 hour ago, Slight43 said:

I'm getting the impression that (A) they are harder to learn/overclock?

Overclocking Ryzen can be as easy, if not easier than Intel (In part due to Ryzen Master). In my opinion it's relatively pointless to daily OC though, just like modern Intel CPU's.

Ryzen does have more things involved once you start going for more advanced OC'ing. This is a plus, not a negative.

 

This opinion is because:

• Just like Intel, Ryzen CPU's have little headroom with sane voltages. This is a plus, because the CPU performs better in its stock configuration.
• Most OC's specify a static voltage. Your CPU doesn't get relief from the voltage in idle. This is overcome with offset voltages. (Same as Intel systems.)
• Memory/Fabric OC'ing is an additional tool to get more performance from Ryzen. You don't have to OC this if you don't want to. Most unintentionally do with high performance memory.
• Personally I find Ryzen Master easier to use than Intel XTU. Both aren't that difficult.

1 hour ago, Slight43 said:

I'm getting the impression that (B) you really don't get much in the way of returns?

Can you clarify this? Regarding OC's or RMA's? OC's can refer to the first point. RMA's, Both Intel and AMD will replace your CPU if it doesn't work.

1 hour ago, Slight43 said:

Would, 6 cores be enough now days?

For desktop and gaming, 6 cores is plenty, and considered enthusiast grade.

[Fatih19]

29 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Your PC in your profile is perfectly fine. It's barely 2 years old, if that. Only a single generation has come and gone. It is still more than capable today and is still considered "high end". You wouldn't really notice any real advantage to buying a new PC now.

You could easily do another year or two out of it, if not more depending on what you do with it. As such, you're better off not pissing off the "ole wifey" for a pointless upgrade.

Agree. Considering it's still perfectly fine, I think if he wants to upgrade he should skip this generation and go for the AM5 platform.

[Slight43]

Awesome, thanks for the great advice. The other forum I was using was just a bunch of people being rude. So thank you very very much. 

 

Totally forgot when I made this account months ago I added my computer stats. I had to update it.

 

I've really been having so much fun tinkering learning how to overclock. I guess my reasoning behind upgrading would be more for I don't want to stop tinkering. But at the same time if I accidently put the wrong number on vcore or something like that. Poof there goes my cpu. So having a secondary computer, I wouldn't be afraid to push the limits!

[dizmo]

There's no such thing as future-proofing, so get that phrase out of your vocab asap

As others have said, I'd really just wait for AM5 given your current computer spec. Then you can also get DDR5.

 

Welcome to the forum!

 

1 hour ago, Slight43 said:

Awesome, thanks for the great advice. The other forum I was using was just a bunch of people being rude. So thank you very very much. 

 

Totally forgot when I made this account months ago I added my computer stats. I had to update it.

 

I've really been having so much fun tinkering learning how to overclock. I guess my reasoning behind upgrading would be more for I don't want to stop tinkering. But at the same time if I accidently put the wrong number on vcore or something like that. Poof there goes my cpu. So having a secondary computer, I wouldn't be afraid to push the limits!

You need to quote people like this for them to see you've replied. You can also tag them like this @Slight43.

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to New Builds and Planning

[Slight43]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

There's no such thing as future-proofing, so get that phrase out of your vocab asap

As others have said, I'd really just wait for AM5 given your current computer spec. Then you can also get DDR5.

 

Welcome to the forum!

 

You need to quote people like this for them to see you've replied. You can also tag them like this @Slight43.

First, sorry new to this msg board thing. I apologize. I didn't even think to read the rules. Thanks again for the tips! 

[Slight43]

@dizmo Sorry was a term I kept hearing on the you tube videos. 

 

 

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, Slight43 said:

First, sorry new to this msg board thing. I apologize. I didn't even think to read the rules. Thanks again for the tips! 

Haha, no need to apologize.

When upgrading it's usually best to include the following:

• Complete PC spec
• Monitor you're using, including resolution and refresh rate
• What you do with your computer
• What your goals are performance wise (what you don't like about your current system)

It's the only way you can get useful advice.

 

[Slight43]

Awesome will do!