project take the crown

[the gamer that is bad]

I have been working on files for a project of mine and at night i had an idea to make a 4u server that you could 3d print at home and could holt 150+ssds in a single chase and is scaleable so far i have been able to fit 156 drives and a motherboard a power supply and fans/cooler i under 3 feet this ha not been printed but what hardware can handle 150+ssds? the reason this is project take the crown is because i am trying to make it so if you want a storeanator like server you do not need to shell out all of your hard earned money to get one.

[Blue4130]

9 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

I have been working on files for a project of mine and at night i had an idea to make a 4u server that you could 3d print at home and could holt 150+ssds in a single chase and is scaleable so far i have been able to fit 156 drives and a motherboard a power supply and fans/cooler i under 3 feet this ha not been printed but what hardware can handle 150+ssds? the reason this is project take the crown is because i am trying to make it so if you want a storeanator like server you do not need to shell out all of your hard earned money to get one.

This is so impractical. If you have 150 ssd's (outside of dataceters no one does) do you want to skimp on the enclosure? Spend the $2000 and get a real case, not a plastic 3d printed case. 

[the gamer that is bad]

it is just a theory and a for fun project

[the gamer that is bad]

it is also scaleable down to 30 drives i tried to make one for hard drives i just cannot figure out how to counter vibrations.

[Electronics Wizardy]

What type of ssds? There are tons of form factors? 

 

BUt really there is no reason to have that many drives, if you need dense solid state storage, use ruler ssds, there made for density.

 

But yes you can connect them, there are sas expanders for sas drives, and pcie splitters for pcie drives, which will let you connect hundreds of drives to a single system.

 

1 hour ago, the gamer that is bad said:

it is also scaleable down to 30 drives i tried to make one for hard drives i just cannot figure out how to counter vibrations.

Most hdd enclosures don't really do much, just screw drives into a tray, and put in in the box. Doesn't seem to cause a issue for datacenters.

[the gamer that is bad]

the reason i don't use hard drives is there heavy the type of drives are 2.5" data drives because the only other ssd s i know of are pcie ssd s and i have never seen a motherboard with 150+ pcie drives.

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What type of ssds? There are tons of form factors? 

 

BUt really there is no reason to have that many drives, if you need dense solid state storage, use ruler ssds, there made for density.

 

But yes you can connect them, there are sas expanders for sas drives, and pcie splitters for pcie drives, which will let you connect hundreds of drives to a single system.

 

Most hdd enclosures don't really do much, just screw drives into a tray, and put in in the box. Doesn't seem to cause a issue for datacenters.

 

[the gamer that is bad]

the main point of this was to be a cheap diy project that can serve a purpose 

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

the reason i don't use hard drives is there heavy the type of drives are 2.5" data drives because the only other ssd s i know of are pcie ssd s and i have never seen a motherboard with 150+ pcie drives.

 

You can use pcie splitters to use that many pcie drives. There are ways to do that in current servers.

 

It just makes no sense to do so, you might aswell just use denser ssds, like the ruler drievs if you need lots of flash in one box.

 

2 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

the main point of this was to be a cheap diy project that can serve a purpose 

Do you have that many drives? This doesn't seem to be the cheap way to go? how many petabytes of flash do you need? What bandwidth?

[the gamer that is bad]

right now i have 42 ssd s all 256 gb and i want to wipe them and put them into a server the reason i have them is my friends/family have been giving me there old ones and ones for my birthday/christmas for years. that is where i got the idea and in my model i had so much extra space that is where the idea inspired for my project take the crown.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 hour ago, the gamer that is bad said:

right now i have 42 ssd s all 256 gb and i want to wipe them and put them into a server the reason i have them is my friends/family have been giving me there old ones and ones for my birthday/christmas for years. that is where i got the idea and in my model i had so much extra space that is where the idea inspired for my project take the crown.

How about a pre made server? Something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerVault-MD1220-Storage-Enclosure-No-Drives-Rails-2x-RPS-2x-EMM-3DJRJ/324159076756?hash=item4b7962f994:g:G9MAAOSwLmxetKBw

 

Then you can put 25 drives in, and get a sas card for a pc and connec tto all of them.

[the gamer that is bad]

i just don't need to pay for filament and i just got a server ran so it is a test of my skills and a money saver trust me i have been looking at used servers like the one in the link i just do not want to buy that 25 hard drive trays and 25 35 to 2.5 inch adapters that would increase the cost by about $200.

[the gamer that is bad]

when the files are done they will be about 1' by 1' so it can be printed by most people with larger 3d printers and from there they will be ablate modify the files to there needs 

[Electronics Wizardy]

37 minutes ago, the gamer that is bad said:

i just don't need to pay for filament and i just got a server ran so it is a test of my skills and a money saver trust me i have been looking at used servers like the one in the link i just do not want to buy that 25 hard drive trays and 25 35 to 2.5 inch adapters that would increase the cost by about $200.

THe problem is you need the cables and splitters. 3d printing it is probably going to be much more expensive than getting a used server. 

 

You can get lots of sas expanders that let you run lots of drives off one controller, but those with the cables won't be cheap.

[Blue4130]

3 hours ago, the gamer that is bad said:

i just don't need to pay for filament and i just got a server ran so it is a test of my skills and a money saver trust me i have been looking at used servers like the one in the link i just do not want to buy that 25 hard drive trays and 25 35 to 2.5 inch adapters that would increase the cost by about $200.

You are going to need to spend money on hooking up those 42 drives to your system. There are no motherboards that have 42 sata ports. Also, unless you have a server grade motherboard and cpu, I think that you will be running into some serious bandwidth issues. 

 

You would really be better off getting a couple of 8tb drives for storage and using these for something else. 

[the gamer that is bad]

ok thank you for your input

[the gamer that is bad]

14 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

You are going to need to spend money on hooking up those 42 drives to your system. There are no motherboards that have 42 sata ports. Also, unless you have a server grade motherboard and cpu, I think that you will be running into some serious bandwidth issues. 

 

You would really be better off getting a couple of 8tb drives for storage and using these for something else. 

thank you for your concerns but i just want storage i don't give 2 s***s about bandwidth sorry about my language tough.

[Blue4130]

7 hours ago, the gamer that is bad said:

thank you for your concerns but i just want storage i don't give 2 s***s about bandwidth sorry about my language tough.

You still haven't addressed how you plan on hooking these up to your system. Your goal is cheap storage, correct? Anything more than 16 drives is going to need a backplane, that is going to be a difficult / next to impossible to DIY on any sort of low cost budget.

[Jarsky]

The real advantage in SSD's is the IOPS and the latency, you probably dont need full out speed. For cheap i'd just get an LSI HBA, and some HP SAS Expanders. You could support ~60 drives with 3 expanders and an LSI 9201-16i

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LSI-OEM-9201-16i-PCI-Express-2-0-x8-SATA-SAS-Host-Bus-Adapter-Card/293724187009

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-24-28-Bay-Port-6Gb-SAS-SATA-Expander-Card-Mini-SAS-487738-001-468405-001/283464438655