Hi will the RTX 3080 FE be better than customs and..?

[Yashiees]

I will be playing at 1080p - So i can get MAX fps. BUT i will be getting another monitor soon thats not 1080p. (maybe 4k, 1440p)

 

Should i go for the FE when it comes out?
 

I don't want to go for a rtx 3080 thats priced £700+

 

im new to pc stuff

 

 

I haven't brought any parts yet but this is my future part list. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£284.97 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	£43.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	£135.99 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£58.48 @ Box Limited
Storage	Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£53.49 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£51.06 @ CCL Computers
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	£73.25 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£79.98 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£795.66
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-16 16:15 BST+0100

 

[Mateyyy]

Your goal of getting MAX fps at 1080p will be impaired by your CPU, depending on your definition of "MAX fps".

 

Regardless, you'll have to wait for reviews of custom AIB cards to see how they compare to the Founders Edition model.

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

Your goal of getting MAX fps at 1080p will be impaired by your CPU, depending on your definition of "MAX fps".

 

Regardless, you'll have to wait for reviews of custom AIB cards to see how they compare to the Founders Edition model.

so what cpu will I need?

[xAcid9]

Yes and no, lower end custom will definitely perform worst especially those reference model. 

 

at 1080p just go with a cheap 5700XT/2070s/2080s or upcoming 3070. 3080 is designed for 4K. 

[Chris Pratt]

A 3080 will be more than £700. That's a given. However, you don't need more than a 3070, especially for 1080p, so that will save you some money.

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, xAcid9 said:

Yes and no, lower end custom will definitely perform worst especially those reference model. 

 

at 1080p just go with a cheap 5700XT/2070s/2080s or upcoming 3070. 3080 is designed for 4K. 

 

1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

A 3080 will be more than £700. That's a given. However, you don't need more than a 3070, especially for 1080p, so that will save you some money.

what If I plan on getting a 1440p monitor in the future? 

 

 

[Chris Pratt]

1 minute ago, Yashiees said:

 

what If I plan on getting a 1440p monitor in the future? 

 

 

3070 is still fine for 1440p. The 2080 Ti could handle 4K, and the 3070 is roughly the same perf, if not a little better.

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

A 3080 will be more than £700. That's a given. However, you don't need more than a 3070, especially for 1080p, so that will save you some money.

Technically doesn't even need a 3070 for 1080p, you don't really need a $500 card.

 

I'd wait to see if a 3060 appears or what Big Navi has in store, may affect 5700(XT) pricing.

[dizmo]

Why would you be buying a last gen CPU? By the time you buy I imagine AMD will already have their next CPU out.

I wouldn't bother with $5 fans.

AIB cards will be more expensive than the FE. So. If you don't want to spend more than the FE, you're better off getting the FE.

[e22big]

21 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

A 3080 will be more than £700. That's a given. However, you don't need more than a 3070, especially for 1080p, so that will save you some money.

eh who know? it's 700 USD, might as well be at £700 for a reference design when supply become more stable

[e22big]

30 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

I will be playing at 1080p - So i can get MAX fps. BUT i will be getting another monitor soon thats not 1080p. (maybe 4k, 1440p)

 

Should i go for the FE when it comes out?
 

I don't want to go for a rtx 3080 thats priced £700+

 

im new to pc stuff

 

 

I haven't brought any parts yet but this is my future part list. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£284.97 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	£43.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	£135.99 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£58.48 @ Box Limited
Storage	Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£53.49 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£51.06 @ CCL Computers
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	£73.25 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£79.98 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan	ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fan	£4.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£795.66
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-16 16:15 BST+0100

 

 

Just don't get 3080, you will have very little gain compare to 2080ti at 1080p which should be around 3070. I'll wait for that or just get the 2080ti now if I were you. 

 

In a way, I feel like GPU from Ampere onward is so fast that all CPU will bottleneck them in all but 4k gaming scenario

 

 

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Why would you be buying a last gen CPU? By the time you buy I imagine AMD will already have their next CPU out.

I wouldn't bother with $5 fans.

AIB cards will be more expensive than the FE. So. If you don't want to spend more than the FE, you're better off getting the FE.

I can't spend more on fans, on a kinda tight budget between £1000-1400

 

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, e22big said:

eh who know? it's 700 USD, might as well be at £700 for a reference design when supply become more stable

 

1 hour ago, e22big said:

 

Just don't get 3080, you will have very little gain compare to 2080ti which should be around 3070. I'll wait for that or just get the 2080ti now if I were you

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

3070 is still fine for 1440p. The 2080 Ti could handle 4K, and the 3070 is roughly the same perf, if not a little better.

then I shall wait for the 3070, I will be upgrading my monitor to 1440p and I wanted top top fps so thats why I thought of going with an rtx 3080 as I have the chance to buy it.

[dizmo]

9 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

I can't spend more on fans, on a kinda tight budget between £1000-1400

 

I honestly wouldn't bother. They're not really needed.

[e22big]

13 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

 

 

then I shall wait for the 3070, I will be upgrading my monitor to 1440p and I wanted top top fps so thats why I thought of going with an rtx 3080 as I have the chance to buy it.

If you can wait though, I think looking for 4k might be a better option. Got the feeling that it will be deminishing return at this point onward

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, e22big said:

If you can wait though, I think looking for 4k might be a better option. Got the feeling that it will be deminishing return at this point onward

i can wait, then I might aswell get an rtx 3080 if im going for a 4k monitor..

[Chris Pratt]

1 hour ago, Yashiees said:

 

 

then I shall wait for the 3070, I will be upgrading my monitor to 1440p and I wanted top top fps so thats why I thought of going with an rtx 3080 as I have the chance to buy it.

If you're wanting max FPS, you're going to be gaming at 1080p, and any of the 30-series cards will perform virtually the same at that resolution, as you'll be hitting a CPU bottleneck long before you're GPU bound.

 

1440p and higher is for games where max FPS isn't the goal, i.e. it's all about visual fidelity. 

[Yashiees]

2 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

If you're wanting max FPS, you're going to be gaming at 1080p, and any of the 30-series cards will perform virtually the same at that resolution, as you'll be hitting a CPU bottleneck long before you're GPU bound.

 

1440p and higher is for games where max FPS isn't the goal, i.e. it's all about visual fidelity. 

so I might aswell wait for an rtx 3070/3060 and wait for the New AMD cpus? correct?

 

[Chris Pratt]

23 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

so I might aswell wait for an rtx 3070/3060 and wait for the New AMD cpus? correct?

 

I would.

[Zenith_X1]

28 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

so I might aswell wait for an rtx 3070/3060 and wait for the New AMD cpus? correct?

 

I've shared this in a couple locations already, but there are a lot of 1080p users going for max FPS so it's worth posting again.  There are games in which 1080p and 1440p are BOTH CPU bottlenecked on the absolute fastest CPUs money can buy.  If 1440p is choked this hard, you can imagine what 1080p is like.  Not all games are like this but at some point you might want to go 1440p.  I'm feeling like 1080p is going the way of 720p because our GPUs are on a totally different growth trajectory than our CPUs.

[charlie_c137]

If your playing at 1080 and don't plan on going any bigger, I'd go 3070. As far as the custom cards... I got a feeling the cooling/card size may will be an issue at least for the first batch. The FE uses basically the whole shroud as a heatsink.

[Yashiees]

15 hours ago, Zenith_X1 said:

I've shared this in a couple locations already, but there are a lot of 1080p users going for max FPS so it's worth posting again.  There are games in which 1080p and 1440p are BOTH CPU bottlenecked on the absolute fastest CPUs money can buy.  If 1440p is choked this hard, you can imagine what 1080p is like.  Not all games are like this but at some point you might want to go 1440p.  I'm feeling like 1080p is going the way of 720p because our GPUs are on a totally different growth trajectory than our CPUs.

I'm getting a 1440p monitor soon.

 

AN RTX 3070 for 1440p for fps?

or RTX 3080 for 1440p for fps? 

[Zenith_X1]

4 hours ago, Yashiees said:

I'm getting a 1440p monitor soon.

 

AN RTX 3070 for 1440p for fps?

or RTX 3080 for 1440p for fps? 

I can't recommend spending $200 extra for a GPU that might see no benefit at 1080p, so I'm glad to hear you are looking at 1440p.  1440p would benefit from a 3080 more than a 3070

 

Buying a 3080 for 1080p resolution is like buying an LS7 engine for a Toyota Camry at this point.

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Zenith_X1 said:

I can't recommend spending $200 extra for a GPU that might see no benefit at 1080p.  That extra money should go to a new CPU, or honestly a higher resolution monitor.  But if you're set on 1080p, I'd say 3070.

 

Buying a 3080 for 1080p resolution is like buying an LS7 engine for a Toyota Camry at this point.

I'd go so far as saying a 3070 for 1080p is overkill, I'd look at $300-$400 cards for that max.

[Zenith_X1]

Just now, Dedayog said:

I'd go so far as saying a 3070 for 1080p is overkill, I'd look at $300-$400 cards for that max.

Right, if it was 1080p all the way then even the 3060 Ti would be plenty.  1080p is falling behind