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3 minutes ago, mason1989 said:

UPDATE
 

It's temp goes down when I open task manager...
?? what is this behavior...any ideas?

I'd run Malwarebytes and Adwbytes as well.

Generally that's malicious software using threads in the background.

Open task manager and the software hides.

Ryzen 5 3600x stock settings

Gigabyte A320m sh-2 latest bios

 

Here are the symptoms:

 

I start pc -> idle temp is 45c -> I watch video or workload and it hits 65c+ -> I exit all workloads but it's temp won't go down.

Once it hits 65c+ it doesn't go back down even on idle.

I went to power plan and changed processor power rate down to 5% but still stuck.

 

Everything else, cores clocks, temps, fans games are all fine.

Helps!!

 

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Try using the program called HWInfo64. When open click sensor only.

Arrows at the bottom left expand the columns.

Cpu Tdie is accurate to the core temps. 

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Try touching your passive on CPU cooler once it hits 65 C. Does it keep hot and doesn't cool down?

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13 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Try using the program called HWInfo64. When open click sensor only.

Arrows at the bottom left expand the columns.

Cpu Tdie is accurate to the core temps. 

TY for quick reply. HWinfo shows the same 65c. Highest temp I hit on workload is 77c and it goes down to 65c and its stuck there.

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13 minutes ago, H6NS said:

Try touching your passive on CPU cooler once it hits 65 C. Does it keep hot and doesn't cool down?

fans are spinning at 100% on idle 65c. It's on the Hot side.

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Just now, mason1989 said:

TY for quick reply. HWinfo shows the same 65c. Highest temp I hit on workload is 77c and it goes down to 65c and its stuck there.

YW.

 

OK 77c is a Great temp. Nothing to worry about at all.

The Cpu cooler is just running a higher temp gradient, meaning it'll stay at a warmer temp at idle, but the increase with a full load test is minimal. Just as you've described it.

 

At best, adjust the fan curve in the bios or through w/e software you have installed. Maybe a more aggressive approach at idle would do the trick.

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2 minutes ago, mason1989 said:

fans are spinning at 100% on idle 65c. It's on the Hot side.

Do you use the stock AMD cooler?

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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21 minutes ago, H6NS said:

Do you use the stock AMD cooler?

yes sir.

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1 minute ago, mason1989 said:

yes sir.

And are you aware that it doesn't have a lot of cooling performance? Why don't you buy some aftermarket air cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212? I'm sure you won't be facing this problem with it.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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8 minutes ago, H6NS said:

And are you aware that it doesn't have a lot of cooling performance? Why don't you buy some aftermarket air cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212? I'm sure you won't be facing this problem with it.

I think a setting the fan to run faster at low CPU usage would've solved this issue. I don't think you need to buy a new cooler for it.

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Just now, Fatih19 said:

I think a setting the fan to run faster at low CPU usage would've solved this issue. I don't think you need to buy a new cooler for it.

As long as you don't care about the noise, why not. I wouldn't solve it like that though, but maybe it's just me.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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Just now, H6NS said:

As long as you don't care about the noise, why not. I wouldn't solve it like that though, but maybe it's just me.

Tbf, 3600X is not as cool as the 3600. If OP has some money, I think that'd be ideal.

Main Rig :

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Thinkpad X230 | i5 3320M | 8 GB DDR3 | V-Gen 128 GB SSD |

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Could also be lack of airflow though. What case do you have and what's your fan configuration?

Main Rig :

Ryzen 7 2700X | Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8 GB | Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 | 16 GB TeamGroup Elite 2400MHz | Samsung 750 EVO 240 GB | HGST 7200 RPM 1 TB | Seasonic M12II EVO | CoolerMaster Q300L | Dell U2518D | Dell P2217H | 

 

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Thinkpad X230 | i5 3320M | 8 GB DDR3 | V-Gen 128 GB SSD |

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A wraith prism would do the trick.  Look for a cheap used one or ask a buddy if he's not using his.

However Ryzen chips just inherently run warm at idle on stock coolers.

The Wrath Spire is only a chunk of aluminum with a fan on it lol.

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TY for all the replies, I have changed the fan curves but it doesn't change the symptoms.

This used to not happen for first 3 months since I built the rig.

Heres the Things I have changed anything recent was updating to the latest motherboard bios and thats about it.

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1 hour ago, mason1989 said:

TY for all the replies, I have changed the fan curves but it doesn't change the symptoms.

This used to not happen for first 3 months since I built the rig.

Heres the Things I have changed anything recent was updating to the latest motherboard bios and thats about it.

Considering this only happen at idle, could there be something CPU intensive running in the background? Check your task manager.

Main Rig :

Ryzen 7 2700X | Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8 GB | Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 | 16 GB TeamGroup Elite 2400MHz | Samsung 750 EVO 240 GB | HGST 7200 RPM 1 TB | Seasonic M12II EVO | CoolerMaster Q300L | Dell U2518D | Dell P2217H | 

 

Laptop :

Thinkpad X230 | i5 3320M | 8 GB DDR3 | V-Gen 128 GB SSD |

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14 hours ago, Fatih19 said:

Considering this only happen at idle, could there be something CPU intensive running in the background? Check your task manager.

UPDATE
changing fancurve to 100% didn't solve anything
but I have found even more weird behavior to current symptom.
when the temp is stuck at 65c at idle. It's temp goes down when I open task manager...
?? what is this behavior...any ideas?
 

 

https://imgur.com/a/JttQ1co

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I'd try reinstalling Windows if I were you.

Main Rig :

Ryzen 7 2700X | Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8 GB | Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 | 16 GB TeamGroup Elite 2400MHz | Samsung 750 EVO 240 GB | HGST 7200 RPM 1 TB | Seasonic M12II EVO | CoolerMaster Q300L | Dell U2518D | Dell P2217H | 

 

Laptop :

Thinkpad X230 | i5 3320M | 8 GB DDR3 | V-Gen 128 GB SSD |

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3 minutes ago, mason1989 said:

UPDATE
 

It's temp goes down when I open task manager...
?? what is this behavior...any ideas?

I'd run Malwarebytes and Adwbytes as well.

Generally that's malicious software using threads in the background.

Open task manager and the software hides.

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