B450 Tomahawk or B550 Tomahawk?

[nathanyule]

I plan on getting a new motherboard soon when the Ryzen 4000 chips come out. If it is a little underwhelming, I'll opt for a 3700x or 3600. If it looks good, I'll buy a 4600. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the B450 boards will support the 4000 series of GPUs. I have a 2000 series Ryzen currently and can flash the bios when I get a new mobo. 

 

Tl;Dr I'm wondering if I should get a B450 mobo since it is cheaper and I don't know if I need the benefits that are presented on the B550 mobo. I am looking at the Tomahawk series since the public perceives it as a solid board. Nevertheless, if there are other boards that are better than the Tomahawk and are at the same price range, I would be happy to hear it. 

[OU812]

Id get the B550 if you want to be sure Ryzen 4000 will be supported.

 

 

edit: Totally missed he was on Zen+

[Mateyyy]

What motherboard do you currently have? If you want native support for Ryzen 4000, you should go for B550.

 

Not all B450 boards are guaranteed to receive a beta BIOS that enables Ryzen 4000 support (granted MSI has confirmed that their boards will get the beta BIOS iirc), but you will then be limited to just Ryzen 4000 and won't be able to revert to an older BIOS revision.

 

Also, do note that if you do get a B550 board now, it won't work with your Ryzen 2000 chip (forgot to mention, thanks @Oswin).

Edited August 23, 2020 by Mateyyy

[Oswin]

the b550 dont support ryzen zen+, so it wont work with your current processor if you do plan on buying now.

Edited August 23, 2020 by Oswin
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[Haro]

10 hours ago, OU812 said:

if you want to be sure Ryzen 4000 will be supported.

the tomahawk max will support zen 3, just with a beta bios.

 

10 hours ago, nathanyule said:

if there are other boards that are better than the Tomahawk and are at the same price range, I would be happy to hear it. 

well in general, the b550 a pro and the pro vdh should be more than enough and should do the job, the pro vdh has the same vrm as the tomahawk with the main difference being the chipset.

 

edit totally missed it, but yea b550 does not support zen +.

Edited August 23, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[nathanyule]

Just now, OU812 said:

Id get the B550 if you want to be sure Ryzen 4000 will be supported.

Any other reasons to it? I won't be grabbing a Ryzen 4600 directly at launch so I'll get the information if it gets supported or not. 

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, nathanyule said:

I have a 2000 series Ryzen currently and can flash the bios when I get a new mobo. 

wont run on B550

 

i would decide on a motherboard when the new CPU launches

also pay attention to PCIE 4.0, and if it affects gaming with nvidia's next gen GPU

i think it wont affect much, but it's hard to say at this point

[OU812]

9 minutes ago, nathanyule said:

Any other reasons to it? I won't be grabbing a Ryzen 4600 directly at launch so I'll get the information if it gets supported or not. 

I totally missed you were running a 2000. As others have said, it wont work on a B550. Probably best to wait and see when the new CPUs drop.

[nathanyule]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

What motherboard do you currently have? If you want native support for Ryzen 4000, you should go for B550.

 

Not all B450 boards are guaranteed to receive a beta BIOS that enables Ryzen 4000 support (granted MSI has confirmed that their boards will get the beta BIOS iirc), but you will then be limited to just Ryzen 4000 and won't be able to revert to an older BIOS revision.

 

Also, do note that if you do get a B550 board now, it won't work with your Ryzen 2000 chip (forgot to mention, thanks @Oswin).

I have a MSI b450m pro vdh. The problem with the board is that I put it in an ATX case (poor planning on my part ik). 

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, nathanyule said:

I have a MSI b450m pro vdh. The problem with the board is that I put it in an ATX case (poor planning on my part ik). 

You can mount it in an ATX case.

[VeganJoy]

you could get a cheap x570, pcie 4.0 is nice. but for the zen 3 equivalent to the 3600 a b450 should be fine. the b450 tomahawk is overpriced though, the b450-a pro max is like 100 bucks and has the same specs, same with the b450 gaming plus max at 110. solid boards and msi has guaranteed beta bios support (at an unspecified date) for their b450s.

[Haro]

10 hours ago, nathanyule said:

The problem with the board is that I put it in an ATX case

you can, atx cases work with matx and itx.

[nathanyule]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

you can, atx cases work with matx and itx.

 

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

You can mount it in an ATX case.

I should of explained it further but I was on a time restraint. Other than looking odd, I also lose PCI X1 lanes since my GPU is beefy. Unfortunately, I can't really buy a mATX case cause my GPU won't fit. 

 

2 hours ago, Oswin said:

the b550 dont support ryzen zen+, so it wont work with your current processor if you do plan on buying now.

Plan on getting the mobo when the 4000 series comes out. If it is a b450 mobo, I can flash the bios on that bad boy with the chip I'm using right now. 

 

Also, thanks for the mobo recommendations. Didn't know the Tomahawk and the pro vdh (ATX) are basically the same thing. 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, nathanyule said:

Didn't know the Tomahawk and the pro vdh (ATX) are basically the same thing. 

The b550 pro vdh uses the same mosfets yep..

2 minutes ago, nathanyule said:

Plan on getting the mobo when the 4000 series comes out.

Then decide which board you want to use them zen 3 releases.