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I have recently bought a prebuilt cpu from bestbuy for gaming/streaming. Not 100% happy with the guts of the cpu (yeah i know! i should have just built my own from scratch).  After a few posts on this site and doing some searching i think i have landed on what i want to do, but i have some questions.

 

The current set up i have...

 

CPU  - i7-9700F @ 3.00GHz

MOBO - Gigabyte B365M DS3H

GPU - RTX 2070 Super

RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB running @ 2133MHz (cant change it due to the motherboard limitations in the BIOS)

HDD - 1 TB

 

The changes i am going to make

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700x @ 4.4Ghz

MOBO - Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite

GPU - RTX 2070 Super

RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB

HDD - 1 TB

SSD - Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB

CPU Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

 

I've watched (and have took apart and rebuilt cpus in the past) but i've never transferred HDDs or anything from one MOBO to another, my concern is after i move everything over will windows and all that stuff still be there? My main concern would be making sure when all the hardware and stuff was all set up and ready to go and it has a successful post, i would just be able to boot it up and it would be ready to go basically. Don't want to worry about buying Windows or anything like that..

 

What would be the best route for making the switch?

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1 minute ago, Bambamgaming said:

my concern is after i move everything over will windows and all that stuff still be there?

technically u can just plug and run it

 

but it's generally recommended to re-install OS after major hardware upgrade (motherboard swap especially) to clear the old drivers and such to prevent it from causing issues

 

plug in your OS drive, install windows, then only plug in your other drives to prevent accidental deletion/funky partitioning error from happening

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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2 minutes ago, Bambamgaming said:

I have recently bought a prebuilt cpu from bestbuy for gaming/streaming. Not 100% happy with the guts of the cpu (yeah i know! i should have just built my own from scratch).  After a few posts on this site and doing some searching i think i have landed on what i want to do, but i have some questions.

 

The current set up i have...

 

CPU  - i7-9700F @ 3.00GHz

MOBO - Gigabyte B365M DS3H

GPU - RTX 2070 Super

RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB running @ 2133MHz (cant change it due to the motherboard limitations in the BIOS)

HDD - 1 TB

 

The changes i am going to make

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700x @ 4.4Ghz

MOBO - Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite

GPU - RTX 2070 Super

RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB

HDD - 1 TB

SSD - Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB

CPU Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

 

I've watched (and have took apart and rebuilt cpus in the past) but i've never transferred HDDs or anything from one MOBO to another, my concern is after i move everything over will windows and all that stuff still be there? My main concern would be making sure when all the hardware and stuff was all set up and ready to go and it has a successful post, i would just be able to boot it up and it would be ready to go basically. Don't want to worry about buying Windows or anything like that..

 

What would be the best route for making the switch?

Just.... before you go and do that, what is the use case of this PC? If its gaming, for now I would just keep the 9700... if you are doing content creation and rendering, yea the Ryzen CPU would be a big upgrade. But for gaming..... the 9700 is perfectly good, hell, you won't actually gain anything going AMD.

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Just now, NZgamer said:

I'm confused, there's going to be very little benefit from making this sidegrade. If you really want to (I don't advise it, it's not worth it), then you need to reinstall Windows after you move the SSD, or you will encounter problems.

he needed a motherboard swap anyways, so he's just going to switch to AMD

info from previous post

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Just.... before you go and do that, what is the use case of this PC? If its gaming, for now I would just keep the 9700... if you are doing content creation and rendering, yea the Ryzen CPU would be a big upgrade. But for gaming..... the 9700 is perfectly good, hell, you won't actually gain anything going AMD.

Gaming, Content creating, streaming, all of the above really..

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11 minutes ago, Bambamgaming said:

SSD - Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB

CPU Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

Wasting money on the SSD get something that's more $/GB friendly. Assuming USD I recommend:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HmmFf7/sabrent-rocket-q-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rktq-1tb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9vWBD3/kingston-a2000-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sa2000m81000g

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QQrmP6/western-digital-sn750-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds100t3x0c

All of these still offer DRAM cache, the WD black would be my first choice.

 

CPU cooler is good but a tad overkill for the 3700x, I recommend:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jbm323/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00062a

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VmMwrH/deepcool-neptwin-rgb-565-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-rgb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wPkj4D/deepcool-neptwin-white-7434-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-white

I personally recommend the Deepcool NEPTWIN, they are going to be nearly as good as the NH-D15 for basically half the price. 

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1 minute ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Wasting money on the SSD get something that's more $/GB friendly. Assuming USD I recommend:

All of these still offer DRAM cache, the WD black would be my first choice.

CPU cooler is good but a tad overkill for the 3700x, I recommend:

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into the options.

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Just now, Bambamgaming said:

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into the options.

The WD Black is also a very high end NVME drive, equal to (might even be better) the 970 EVO. I run 3 of them and in my main system particularly I read/write heavily, no concerns whatsoever. Samsung drives come with the name "tax". 

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2 minutes ago, Caroline said:

2.5" is better than m.2 FF because of heat dissipation

Huh? If you've got even moderately okay airflow this a complete non issue, and having an M.2 NVMe drive is totally worth it.

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will the rgb vengeance stuff fit under a d15? 

topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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3 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

will the rgb vengeance stuff fit under a d15? 

good question, im going to look into other coolers, maybe ones that aren't so bulky.

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42 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

he needed a motherboard swap anyways, so he's just going to switch to AMD

info from previous post

Soooooooo what would be the pros and cons for buying a 3900x vs a 3700x? I will be using the cpu to Stream/record and game all at the same time, and then i will edit and create videos as well..

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18 minutes ago, Bambamgaming said:

Soooooooo what would be the pros and cons for buying a 3900x vs a 3700x? I will be using the cpu to Stream/record and game all at the same time, and then i will edit and create videos as well..

for streaming you should probably just let the gpu handle it, turing nvenc is nuts. the 3900x would make editing pretty fast although its worth noting that some video editing software is still heavily optimized for intel afaik

topics i need help on:

Spoiler

 

 

my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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17 minutes ago, Caroline said:

how is nVME worth if you're only playing games? just because it has a 3% higher score over the regular ones on some japanese synth bench doesn't means there's a huge difference that justifies paying $20 or $30 more 

sata is like 5-10 bucks less than decent nvme drives, worth the upgrade imo at least for eliminating cables

topics i need help on:

Spoiler

 

 

my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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13 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

sata is like 5-10 bucks less than decent nvme drives, worth the upgrade imo at least for eliminating cables

Some people just like to be contrarian.

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1 hour ago, Bambamgaming said:

Soooooooo what would be the pros and cons for buying a 3900x vs a 3700x? I will be using the cpu to Stream/record and game all at the same time, and then i will edit and create videos as well..

Depends, for game recording you're definitely using NVENC

 

As for video editing, idk, I find my 3900x doing almost nothing because my editing software uses NVENC

Though I'm not much of a video editor myself, mostly crop and edit slightly

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Good luck getting that 3700X to a stable 4.4 GHz, you're going to need it...

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Best way?

1. Clone your drive using Macrium Reflect (use rescue usb for that)

2. Boot your drive on another computer.

3. Be happy using your new PC with everything already installed. And wait (about 20 years maybe) for that mythical, unspecified problems that people warning about (but never gives any examples with explanation).

 

I cloned lot of systems and change lot of hardware. My own system is cloned 3 times (changing ssd to faster and bigger) and I change basically all my hardware (CPU and motherboard included). So far 4 years or more after first (and only) installation without problem and without any reinstall. But I'm just know how it works and why it works, unlike people who recommend clean install every change.

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