ZeitCoin in support of the Zeitgeist movement

[peanutsrevenge]

Hey boys and girls,

 

Wanted to bring ZeitCoin to your attention.

 

Some of you may already be aware of the Zeitgeist Movement and the

, well, there's now a coin that's been created to support the movement.

 

While I'm not personally keen on the specs of the coin, I fully support the movement and supporting the coin will help to achieve this. 

 

If you're aware of the massive inequality that's rife in the world and how money corrupts, then you may wish to at least check out the movies, if you'd like a bit of money yourself, this coin could be good for you, but you need to get on board quick, it's a quick release coin (short PoW rapid transition to PoS), so change up now if you're interested.

 

P.S

For a coin with just some great specs that's not supporting the above cause, CASH is very much worth a look, the difficulty is very low at present too as it's struggled to gain market attention.

[Mentalguy]

Zeitgeist the movie, pretty much bullshit.

[nofxz]

if only everything in life was answered by saying its bullshit because i don't understand it.

[Dallen49]

a few eccentric people pushed me away from the movement. all the power to you I'm sticking to doge and lite. or what ever the next flavour is.

[Mentalguy]

if only everything in life was answered by saying its bullshit because i don't understand it.

was that aimed at me?

[DoubleY]

was that aimed at me?

It probably was. just another erm... 420 guy if you will

[Mentalguy]

It probably was. just another erm... 420 guy if you will

lol

[Toxic Tom]

Might as well mine some

[Virgule]

Nope

[KamiKatze]

Camo&Krooked have an album called Zeitgeist. It sucks!

[Fred Castellum]

The Zeitgeist Movement advocates the elimination of money and private property. This is next to impossible with how the world works. A resourced based economy would still require common currency which in turn would still be considered "money". 

Converting the money-based economic system to a resource-based system would be a next to impossible transition, and even if done so would collapse the global economy. 

[Me1z]

Camo&Krooked have an album called Zeitgeist. It sucks!

 

Thank you for that completely relevant and on topic contribution to the conversation. And to think, we probably could have gone our entire lives without needing to know that bit of information. It's a good thing you were here to prevent such a tragedy.

[Me1z]

The Zeitgeist Movement advocates the elimination of money and private property. This is next to impossible with how the world works. A resourced based economy would still require common currency which in turn would still be considered "money". 

Converting the money-based economic system to a resource-based system would be a next to impossible transition, and even if done so would collapse the global economy. 

 

One of the reasons I've shied away from the movement. Not because necessarily disagree with the idea of a resource based economy, but because they think the change is possible without a violent revolution. Our current society is simply not compatible and would require a revolution on a scale not seen in hundreds of years, too many people are still living "comfortable" lives to care.

[Fred Castellum]

One of the reasons I've shied away from the movement. Not because necessarily disagree with the idea of a resource based economy, but because they think the change is possible without a violent revolution. Our current society is simply not compatible and would require a revolution on a scale not seen in hundreds of years, too many people are still living "comfortable" lives to care.

Plus pricing the value of something in a resource based economy is even harder because well.. you don't have a commonly agreed on currency to trade with. And if you do then your basically reverting to a currency/money based economy to trade goods. 

[KamiKatze]

Thank you for that completely relevant and on topic contribution to the conversation. And to think, we probably could have gone our entire lives without needing to know that bit of information. It's a good thing you were here to prevent such a tragedy.

 

M ycomment reflects what i think of the Zeitgeist movement. It's a metaphor. But i understand that your small doge brain doesn't get that drift. I am trying to be polite and not break the CoC, but please go fold yourself!

[Fred Castellum]

M ycomment reflects what i think of the Zeitgeist movement. It's a metaphor. But i understand that your small doge brain doesn't get that drift. I am trying to be polite and not break the CoC, but please go fold yourself!

Come on now any sort of name calling in a negative manner is counter intuitive. Lets just mine away at doge instead of talking about doge brains. What say you?

 

 

[Cronus97]

Hey boys and girls,

 

Wanted to bring ZeitCoin to your attention.

 

Some of you may already be aware of the Zeitgeist Movement and the

, well, there's now a coin that's been created to support the movement.

 

While I'm not personally keen on the specs of the coin, I fully support the movement and supporting the coin will help to achieve this. 

 

If you're aware of the massive inequality that's rife in the world and how money corrupts, then you may wish to at least check out the movies, if you'd like a bit of money yourself, this coin could be good for you, but you need to get on board quick, it's a quick release coin (short PoW rapid transition to PoS), so change up now if you're interested.

 

P.S

For a coin with just some great specs that's not supporting the above cause, CASH is very much worth a look, the difficulty is very low at present too as it's struggled to gain market attention.

While I support coins, I cannot and will never support a movement keen on taking away private liberties and implementing a hyper-socialist society,  it is too easily abused (when compared to republics)

[peanutsrevenge]

The Zeitgeist Movement advocates the elimination of money and private property. This is next to impossible with how the world works. A resourced based economy would still require common currency which in turn would still be considered "money". 

Converting the money-based economic system to a resource-based system would be a next to impossible transition, and even if done so would collapse the global economy. 

Then you don't know what the Venus Project is about. There would be no need for money (which as you point out is just a medium of exchange). The number of jobs is being reduced due to technological advancement, we're just looking towards its logical conclusion. There would be VERY few roles left for people, what would be the point of money when noone's able to get any?

 

One of the reasons I've shied away from the movement. Not because necessarily disagree with the idea of a resource based economy, but because they think the change is possible without a violent revolution. Our current society is simply not compatible and would require a revolution on a scale not seen in hundreds of years, too many people are still living "comfortable" lives to care.

We'd hope it can be achieve without a violent revolution, but I for one doubt it can happen. The goal is to have a direction for us to head in once the revolution occurs. That's been the problem with revolutions throughout history, no one has any idea wtf to do once it's been achieved.

While I support coins, I cannot and will never support a movement keen on taking away private liberties and implementing a hyper-socialist society,  it is too easily abused (when compared to republics)

 

Such things are abused because (massively simplifying) A) there's money which breeds greed B) there's been a distinct lack of transparency which has been partially due to a lack of communication, which was due to a lack of technology. We have the internet now C) It's not been socialist, just dressed up to look and sound like it in order to cover up the reasons for taking peoples privacy and property.

So long as people keep harping on about the reasons it won't work, the easier we make it for the corporatocracy to control us. The more you say 'others won't go with it' the more like 'the others' you are and therefore you ARE the selfish greedy type.

The Venus Project is not about taking about taking away 'private property' as there's no such thing, we live on ONE planet, we have to SHARE this planet. What we each do as individuals effects everyone and everything on this planet to some extent. If you cut someone off while driving home, you'll put them in a bad mood and more likely to cut someone else off, snap at their wife/child causing them to kick off.........

How many of you here have helped others on this forum, not for monetary gain but because you enjoy it, because you learn from it and become a better, nicer person and improve someone elses life. That's all we're talking about. People are great at doing things they enjoy and don't require any direct reward for it so long as we have food, shelter, security, friends and family. With technology the first 3 are taken care of leaving more time for the final 2 and anything else we'd like to add on top.

 

Open your minds, free your thinking from the constant propaganda that the status quo is the best thing, if that were true, we'd never have evolved from single cell organisms. Change happens, make that change for the good of everyone and everyone will take care of you.

 

And no, it's not some utopia shit, we won't get on with everyone, we'll still debate, bicker, disagree and fall out because we'll always be individuals, but the system being proposed is a hell of a lot better than what we have now and in striving for perfection we'll learn a hell of a lot of the never ending journey!

 

Final note. I've stopped following The Zeitgeist Movement, the 'spokespeople' for them have shown themselves to be hypocritical, brainless elitists regarding Zeitcoin. I support the movement and the true supporters of The Venus Project but during this struggle the wrong people have found themselves being the voice. Until that's changed I stand apart.

[Fred Castellum]

 

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Quite informative I like this. 

 

Greed is going to exist in a resource based economy too, it'll just be adapted into another form. Greed itself isn't a "bad" thing we need to remember that. Greed may be used as a sense of driving motivation for some. Everyone's greedy, a corporation is a collection of people who come together to run a business. 

 

Propaganda itself will always exist, it doesn't need to be passed through media to the viewers to be propaganda. We strive for perfection to our own standards, that's why not everyone will accept another's view. 

 

 

Change happens, make that change for the good of everyone and everyone will take care of you.

The good of everyone is defined differently by different people, so that's hard to say. 

 

[peanutsrevenge]

nipple twist

What would the need be for greed?

Have you watched the films, seen some videos from The Venus project? 

I genuinely don't believe there would be the need, it'll take one HELL of a societal shift sure (it took me about 4 years to get my own dad to watch the films and that's only because we've been crypto'ing together so he saw for himself how broken the monetary system is and therefore gave the movies a go and I've failed for a year to get the guys at work to watch them either), but the potential is there.

Sure, because we're the product of differing environments, but at the end of the day, we all like to have somewhere safe to sleep and nice food to eat, the differences like free-climbers, extreme ironers, knitters, mathematicians etc will be able to spend more time doing what they enjoy without HAVING to work in order to spend a fraction of their lives doing what they enjoy (they may not be good enough to do it for a living).

[Scionyde]

Aside from bringing attention to the cause, how does this support the movement? Also, isn't the presence of such a cryptocurrency incongruous to the ideals of trying to "eliminate money and private property"?

 

I'll freely admit that I know very little about this movement, however.

[Fred Castellum]

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If it wasn't for greed, then some good people probably wouldn't aspire to be better. Greed's lead to both good and evil things, but we obsess over the evil because it's more easy to relate and talk about. 

 

Its not about if we need it or not, regardless it'll be there. No monetary system is the end all be all monetary system, people will always have different views on how the monetary system should be no matter what we use now. 

 

We can't just not have "work" though, hard work does help teach people certain values. Work doesn't necessarily have to be something you don't want to do and don't like doing. If you like something enough then you can try your best to do it as good as you possibly can and it may end up being your job! The journey is part of the fun, work may not ring as something that's fun to do but its something you can look back on one day, talk about, and learn from. How would you like to spend your life? If you say its impossible and think its impossible then it really will be impossible for you. 

 

In the words of the late Alan Watts - "Better to have short life that is full of doing what you like doing than a long life doing spent in a miserable way. And after all if you do really like what your doing, it doesn't matter what it is you can eventually become a master of it. The only way to become a master of something is to be really with it. Then maybe you'll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is."

[Legion]

So many types of coin so little cares.

 

In all honestly, I supported the movement until I actually debated for the other side and realised how impossible it would be. Also as much as I love a good conspiracy in my movies/anime ect I really struggle with the idea that a small collection have plotted throughout history for their benefit. Suppose this would happen how do you corrupt all of your family to continue the cycle and not expose it.

 

But whatever I'm not going to get into a discussion about why I think a cryptocurrency goes against the idea's of the movement and that of the venus project or why I think the movement figurehead seems to be a crazy on a mining/folding forum.

I'm just going to sigh and continue trading in doge/lite/btc.

 

Also the correlation between coin trading and stock trading and how most people in the movement I know hate wall street and stock brokers always makes me laugh.

[Cronus97]

"The more you say 'others won't go with it' the more like 'the others' you are and therefore you ARE the selfish greedy type."

Thank you for the insult that makes people disregard your entire post.  We live in a world where its do or die.  you don't know what people have been through, or how hard they worked. And who are you to say that your good is my good or the next persons good!  I wish you and anyone else who follows this ideology good luck, but it will never succeed.  As long as I live I will not support it. 

"The Venus Project is not about taking about taking away 'private property' as there's no such thing" 

We'll see what would happen if you try to "share" MY home or anything that I have made or worked to get without my consent.  If everyone is entitled to what the other person has than i have no reason to create.

I live my life to helping others, without that I wouldn't have a reason to be alive, but my work belongs to me before I give it away or sell or trade it. 

Finally, How would the world population be supported if everyone does what they want?  I doubt people want to be doing hard manual labor.

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You have pushed me very far away from supporting this, congratulations!