Posted July 16, 2020 Hey, guys! I don't know if this is the correct area to ask for advice, but i'm am planning to build a system capable of virtualizing a lot of machines, ranging from firewalls, all the way to VyOS routers, passing trough windows servers and CentOS servers as well. I am currently working on an ASUS X560UD Laptop with the i7 8550U variant, 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1050 mobile. I work on linux, because windows keeps crashing for some reason and play games and enjoy other forms of entertainment on windows. I planned some things ahead: Price budget Confortable : 1000€ ~ 1000$US because of taxes and what not MAX : 1500€ ~ 1500$US because of the same reason Air cooling because i don't trust water near my electronics (mad trust issues) Wanted to try Ryzen, because Intel seems to s*ck now and AMD gives more bang for the buck GPU need the most bang for the buck that can play games if the urge rises (mostly triple A titles from some years back and emulators) Case nothing flashy. only sleek and modern looking The reason fot this is that i will be taking a new networking course (continuing the one i just completed) and we do use a lot of virtual machines and had to count the MegaBytes of RAM to the very end of the SODIMMS to fit everything and some machines didn't even manged to run I am from Europe, Portugal to be more specific, so some parts may not be available at all. But since my course only starts in November, i have time to prepare and wait for the parts Thank you in advance for bearing with my english and thank you for your suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 16, 2020 So I imagine you'll need lot's of CPU cores and lot's of RAM. Any idea how much? Obviously the budget towards these components will affect the level of GPU that can fit, so striking the right balance is important. BabyBlu (Primary): CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34 GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem Case: Phanteks Evolv X Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB PSU: Corsair HX1000i Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front) Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown) Mouse: MasterMouse MM710 Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB OS: Windows 10 Pro Roxanne (Wife Build): CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM Motherboard: Asus Z97A RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24 GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME PSU: Corsair AX760 Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White) Mouse: Glorious Model O- Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7 OS: Windows 10 Pro BigBox (HTPC): CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28 GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads Case: Fractal Design Node 202 Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14 Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR) Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15 Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4 Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB) Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup. OS: Windows 10 Pro Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server): CPU: Intel Core i7 6700 Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133 GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530 Case: Fractal Design Define 7 HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5 SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60 PSU: Corsair CX450 Display: None Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S Keyboard/Mouse: None OS: Windows 10 Pro NAS: Synology DS216J 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 16, 2020 Author 2 hours ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said: So I imagine you'll need lot's of CPU cores and lot's of RAM. Any idea how much? Obviously the budget towards these components will affect the level of GPU that can fit, so striking the right balance is important. For straters, thanks for the contribution to solve my dillema Now, I'm running 17 VMs 1 physical CISCO router to connect to school network and access the web through NAT 6VyOS Routers to simulate "internal WAN" each has 128MB of RAM allocatted ( Runs properlly) 4 Opnsense firewalls - each 512 MB of RAM allocatted 1single for mail server protection 1single for backup server protection 2 on high availabilty configuration 2 WinServer 16 1 DNS server standalone 768MB of RAM 1 AD server with 1GB of RAM inside the green zone of high availabillity firewall config 1 CentOS backup server 512MB of RAM (crawls) 1 CentOS Apache & NGINX server woth 512MB of RAM inside DMZ zone on the high availabillity firewall config 1 Postfix server with 512MB of RAM 2 Win7 client with 1 GB of RAM each for testing diferent scenarios 16GB currently scraping by having to calculate every single MByte of RAM available. Wich means i'll need at least 24GB of RAM so things can run properly. My CPU struggles to keep up the pace, since it has only 4 cores and 8 threads. Which would be a good CPU gor these kinds of tasks. Note the I prioritize work over games. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 16, 2020 PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €319.00 @ Globaldata CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler €34.90 @ Globaldata Motherboard ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €169.90 @ Globaldata Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €134.90 @ Globaldata Storage Corsair MP510 1.92 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €349.99 @ Corsair Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card €339.90 @ Globaldata Case Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case €67.90 @ Corsair Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €79.90 @ Corsair Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total €1496.39 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-17 00:45 WEST+0100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Author 9 minutes ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €319.00 @ Globaldata CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler €34.90 @ Globaldata Motherboard ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €169.90 @ Globaldata Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €134.90 @ Globaldata Storage Corsair MP510 1.92 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €349.99 @ Corsair Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card €339.90 @ Globaldata Case Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case €67.90 @ Corsair Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €79.90 @ Corsair Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total €1496.39 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-17 00:45 WEST+0100 Thank you for your time. Really apreciate it. Seems like a balanced build, maybe i will pump up that PSU to 650W just so i can sleep well at night, knowing that my rig is well fed in terms of power. Is that cooler an air cooler or an AIO? As I said in response to HairlessMonkeyBoy, i have mad trust issues when ir comes to water and my precious eletronics, so i would rather have a solid air cooler with no chance for leaking. Then, should 3 case fans be enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Author 34 minutes ago, EllbowPT said: Thank you for your time. Really apreciate it. Seems like a balanced build, maybe i will pump up that PSU to 650W just so i can sleep well at night, knowing that my rig is well fed in terms of power. Is that cooler an air cooler or an AIO? As I said in response to HairlessMonkeyBoy, i have mad trust issues when ir comes to water and my precious eletronics, so i would rather have a solid air cooler with no chance for leaking. Then, should 3 case fans be enough? Already figured it out. It's an air cooler. Nevermind those lines. Is the Ryzen 7 3700X gonna be refreshed with the 3700XT by november? Also, that NVME drive. Way overkill I have a lot of SATA3 SSDs. No need for 2TB NVMe. With that i think i can build my rig with around 1200-1300€ Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 18 hours ago, EllbowPT said: Already figured it out. It's an air cooler. Nevermind those lines. Is the Ryzen 7 3700X gonna be refreshed with the 3700XT by november? Also, that NVME drive. Way overkill I have a lot of SATA3 SSDs. No need for 2TB NVMe. With that i think i can build my rig with around 1200-1300€ Thanks a lot didnt realize you had ssd's already, and i reccomend the cooler master mwe gold for the psu if you can find it. or the same psu with 100 extra watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Author 1 hour ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said: didnt realize you had ssd's already, and i reccomend the cooler master mwe gold for the psu if you can find it. or the same psu with 100 extra watts Right now everything is either out of stock or only available as display units. Since, unfortunatly, shops like micro center don't exist here, not even display units are available, because of the pandemic. This will be for the future; november maybe. Therefore i have a little more time to find and make a reservation. But i will try to find those. Honestly, GPU is a priority, since crypto miners could make a return to activity and consume every last unit possible. I don't want to pay 500€ for a 339€ card. But thanks for the collaboration Really apreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €157.90 @ Corsair Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total €157.90 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-17 21:32 WEST+0100 this is the only one above 550 watts under 175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Author 19 minutes ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €157.90 @ Corsair Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total €157.90 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-17 21:32 WEST+0100 this is the only one above 550 watts under 175 O found the corsair rm 2019 fully modular 750W 80+ gold for 114.90 at corsair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, EllbowPT said: O found the corsair rm 2019 fully modular 750W 80+ gold for 114.90 at corsair nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 Author 11 minutes ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said: nice Maybe i'll buy it if i can so i wont cry in november when it's no longer available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, EllbowPT said: Maybe i'll buy it if i can so i wont cry in november when it's no longer available yeah definately lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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