Alaska Computer Build

[birdflyer]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

There's currently no price on the motherboard and monitor. Is your total budget $1200 including the monitor, peripherals etc.? 

yes

[SavageNeo]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

There's currently no price on the motherboard and monitor. Is your total budget $1200 including the monitor, peripherals etc.? 

i had this part list linked. i think it is decent. what do you think? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KFFNCL

[birdflyer]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

i had this part list linked. i think it is decent. what do you think? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KFFNCL

Yes, we may make a few changes, but I am very happy with this build, thanks

[Aereldor]

2 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

Yes, we may make a few changes, but I am very happy with this build, thanks

Is your graphic design work going to involve printing? If so, you're going to need a monitor with not just sRGB colour space coverage, but also AdobeRGB, which will be more expensive. If it's just for web that makes it way easier.

[birdflyer]

Just now, Aereldor said:

Is your graphic design work going to involve printing? If so, you're going to need a monitor with not just sRGB colour space coverage, but also AdobeRGB, which will be more expensive. If it's just for web that makes it way easier.

Quite honestly, I don't think the people we are building it for cares, but I would say if we can find one that includes the AdobeRGB color space then great, if not that's fine to.

[Aereldor]

12 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

Quite honestly, I don't think the people we are building it for cares, but I would say if we can find one that includes the AdobeRGB color space then great, if not that's fine to.

Well, it seems like they're going to be doing CPU-intensive tasks, I managed to fit in a 12-core. The RX 570 does okay for OpenCL - it's not as good as the 5700, which performs on par with the RTX 2080 in Premiere, OpenCL vs CUDA, but having a beefier CPU will probably help things more there anyway.

Going Amazon-only ends up putting you a wee bit over budget, and I haven't picked out a case, that's best left to personal choice. 

I don't like that keyboard they picked, but I guess that's none of my business since they have to have it. But tell them a piece of shit membrane keyboard like that will not last them seven years.

1440p 27" monitor is nice to have, shit's going to be easier to read.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($418.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Team MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital RE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($55.49 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.03 @ Amazon) 
Wireless Network Adapter: MSI AC905C PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: ViewSonic VA2719-2K-SMHD 27.0" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Arteck 2.4G Wireless Keyboard Stainless Steel Ultra Slim Full Size Keyboard with Numeric Keypad for Computer/Desktop/PC/Laptop/Surface/Smart TV and Windows 10/8/7 Built in Rechargeable Battery  ($35.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: RAZER MAMBA WIRELESS: True 16,000 DPS 5G Optical Sensor - Wired/Wireless Capability (50 Hour Battery Life) – Powered by Razer Chroma - Ergonomic Gaming Mouse (2018)  ($45.06 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1309.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-11 15:00 EDT-0400

 

[birdflyer]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Well, it seems like they're going to be doing CPU-intensive tasks, I managed to fit in a 12-core. The RX 570 does okay for OpenCL - it's not as good as the 5700, which performs on par with the RTX 2080 in Premiere, OpenCL vs CUDA, but having a beefier CPU will probably help things more there anyway.

Going Amazon-only ends up putting you a wee bit over budget, and I haven't picked out a case, that's best left to personal choice. 

I don't like that keyboard they picked, but I guess that's none of my business since they have to have it. But tell them a piece of shit membrane keyboard like that will not last them seven years.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($418.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Team MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital RE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($55.49 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.03 @ Amazon) 
Wireless Network Adapter: MSI AC905C PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: ViewSonic VA2719-2K-SMHD 27.0" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Arteck 2.4G Wireless Keyboard Stainless Steel Ultra Slim Full Size Keyboard with Numeric Keypad for Computer/Desktop/PC/Laptop/Surface/Smart TV and Windows 10/8/7 Built in Rechargeable Battery  ($35.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: RAZER MAMBA WIRELESS: True 16,000 DPS 5G Optical Sensor - Wired/Wireless Capability (50 Hour Battery Life) – Powered by Razer Chroma - Ergonomic Gaming Mouse (2018)  ($45.06 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1309.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-11 15:00 EDT-0400

 

Thanks, not quite sure if we need a ryzen 9 , Might do a ryzen 7 and get a better gpu or something. Thanks though, very informative. 

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, birdflyer said:

Thanks, not quite sure if we need a ryzen 9 , Might do a ryzen 7 and get a better gpu or something. Thanks though, very informative. 

What are they going to do with a better GPU? Also you didn't mention what programs they're using, I'm not sure what 'heavy research' in the context of a church means.

[birdflyer]

Just now, Aereldor said:

What are they going to do with a better GPU? Also you didn't mention what programs they're using, I'm not sure what 'heavy research' in the context of a church means.

Ya, LoL I understand. We essentially are trying to get something that is well balanced.

[birdflyer]

Just now, birdflyer said:

Ya, LoL I understand. We essentially are trying to get something that is well balanced.

and will last a long time

 

[birdflyer]

3 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

What are they going to do with a better GPU? Also you didn't mention what programs they're using, I'm not sure what 'heavy research' in the context of a church means.

Hey also, If we at all can we need to keep everything under $1200

[Aereldor]

22 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

Hey also, If we at all can we need to keep everything under $1200

Hmm, probably switch to a 1080p 24" monitor to shave $120 off. 

[birdflyer]

7 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Hmm, probably switch to a 1080p 24" monitor to shave $120 off. 

ya that would be good

[Aereldor]

8 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

ya that would be good

Cheers. Also, the 12-core chip will last them basically forever. Look back at top-end chips and you'll see why I recommend the best available CPUs for longevity. People are still chugging along on their Core i5 2500k rigs from 2010, but you don't see anyone using a GTX 480, 580, hell even a 780 ti nearly as often.

And the fact that they really don't need a nice graphics card. 

[birdflyer]

37 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Cheers. Also, the 12-core chip will last them basically forever. Look back at top-end chips and you'll see why I recommend the best available CPUs for longevity. People are still chugging along on their Core i5 2500k rigs from 2010, but you don't see anyone using a GTX 480, 580, hell even a 780 ti nearly as often.

And the fact that they really don't need a nice graphics card. 

Hey quick question, so my friend is a bit of an intel fanboy, he says that an intel chip is more relible than an AMD one. Is this true or false?

 

@SavageNeo and @Aereldor I would like to here both of your opinions 

[Aereldor]

Just now, birdflyer said:

Hey quick question, so my friend is a bit of an intel fanboy, he says that an intel chip is more relible than an AMD one. Is this true or false?

 

@SavageNeo and @Aereldor I would like to here both of your opinions 

Bullshit. Anyone who has been an Intel fanboy after 2017 needs to get their head out of the sand. 

[birdflyer]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Bullshit. Anyone who has been an Intel fanboy after 2017 needs to get their head out of the sand. 

Ya, that's what I told him (in a little bit nicer way of course). So just to clarify, there is absolutely no reason to go with Intel over AMD for reliability reasons.

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, birdflyer said:

Ya, that's what I told him (in a little bit nicer way of course). So just to clarify, there is absolutely no reason to go with Intel over AMD for reliability reasons.

No. Until recently Intel chips were also running unreasonably hot, they're still toasty but 7th/8th gen was an absolute mess, to the point where delidding would make chips run up to 30 DEGREES COOLER. Yeah, a problem that could be fixed for $5 made Intel's CPUs into tea boilers.

[birdflyer]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

No. Until recently Intel chips were also running unreasonably hot, they're still toasty but 7th/8th gen was an absolute mess, to the point where delidding would make chips run up to 30 DEGREES COOLER. Yeah, a problem that could be fixed for $5 made Intel's CPUs into tea boilers.

OK great, (just so I could show this to him) do you know anyone else who would be able to also back up what you are saying? (btw I completely agree with you)

[Aereldor]

12 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

OK great, (just so I could show this to him) do you know anyone else who would be able to also back up what you are saying? (btw I completely agree with you)

The delidding? Not as much of a problem with 10th gen, but here's some obscene examples of how stupid Intel was.

 

Spoiler

 

 

If you mean back me up on how AMD isn't inferior to Intel... This whole forum will back me up. Go ahead and make a thread about it if you'd like. They're better at different things, though. An overclocked 10600k is still objectively the best gaming chip out there, it'll get fast enough to beat a 10900k. But for anything else, a Ryzen 3700x will slap it around.

So unless your church is building a 300hz gaming machine... 

[birdflyer]

8 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The delidding? Not as much of a problem with 10th gen, but here's some obscene examples of how stupid Intel was.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

If you mean back me up on how AMD isn't inferior to Intel... This whole forum will back me up. Go ahead and make a thread about it if you'd like. They're better at different things, though. An overclocked 10600k is still objectively the best gaming chip out there, it'll get fast enough to beat a 10900k. But for anything else, a Ryzen 3700x will slap it around.

So unless your church is building a 300hz gaming machine... 

Ya Like I said I am completely with you on this one. I am going to create a thread about that, thanks for all your help. 

[birdflyer]

13 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The delidding? Not as much of a problem with 10th gen, but here's some obscene examples of how stupid Intel was.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

If you mean back me up on how AMD isn't inferior to Intel... This whole forum will back me up. Go ahead and make a thread about it if you'd like. They're better at different things, though. An overclocked 10600k is still objectively the best gaming chip out there, it'll get fast enough to beat a 10900k. But for anything else, a Ryzen 3700x will slap it around.

So unless your church is building a 300hz gaming machine... 

Here is the thread: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1220898-my-friend-thinks-intel-is-better-than-amd/

[birdflyer]

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Edited July 11, 2020 by birdflyer
Accused of click bait and trolling

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, birdflyer said:

umm, well I made it to click bait like apparently, so um let's do this a little less click bait like. 

 

Still click bait and trolling.  Looking to provoke arguments.

[birdflyer]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Still click bait and trolling.  Looking to provoke arguments.

No look this is not what I am trying to do, I am actually trying to build a computer and actually trying to show him something. Please look at my profile or back at my previous replies, non of them were like this.