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Which Ryzen cpu??

I've decided to upgrade my ancient desktop from i7 4820k and I'm looking at Ryzen cpu. I dont want to spend too much, but I want a decent cpu that will perform and last me a while. 

 

I found the R5 1600 for only $104 on amazon and thought it was a helluva deal, but now I'm having second thoughts. Still waiting on the mobo to come in, so im wondering if it makes sense to return the 1600 and spend an extra $70ish on the 3600, but it will also require a new mobo unless I want to go thru the process of flashing BIOS.

 

I've grabbed the fastest ram my mobo will handle ddr4 3200mhz and a nice WD black m.2 ssd, will these alone be enough to make the pc feel snappy even with a slower cpu? Should I just toss it all and go ryzen 7 for 8 cores? Is it worth it?

 

Love to hear what you all think. Thanks!

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What do you want to do on this PC ?
Editing ? Streaming ? Gaming ? 

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1 minute ago, snoopunit said:

found the R5 1600 for only $104

Bad deal 

Get an af or a 3300x

2 minutes ago, snoopunit said:

3600, but it will also require a new mobo unless I want to go thru the process of flashing BIOS.

Go for it

Updating the bios is easy 

2 minutes ago, snoopunit said:

I've grabbed the fastest ram my mobo will handle ddr4 3200mhz

What ? 

What motherboard do you have ?

2 minutes ago, snoopunit said:

will these alone be enough to make the pc feel snappy even with a slower cpu?

The 1600 is not a slow cpu 

But getting something like a 3300x or a 1600af would be a way better deal

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

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Just now, Neutraliz said:

What do you want to do on this PC ?
Editing ? Streaming ? Gaming ? 

Gaming, unity/unreal development mostly. I dont stream or make videos

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Bad deal 

Get an af or a 3300x

Go for it

Updating the bios is easy 

What ? 

What motherboard do you have ?

The 1600 is not a slow cpu 

But getting something like a 3300x or a 1600af would be a way better deal

I'm sorry what's the difference between 1600 and 1600af? I dont seem to see any results for that

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1 minute ago, snoopunit said:

Gaming, unity/unreal development mostly. I dont stream or make videos

Then, 3600.
But what do you have in term of GPU ?
If you don't really push your 3600, and the GPU is the bottleneck, you pretty much not gonna see any improvements.

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Just now, snoopunit said:

dont seem to see any results for that

It's called a 1600 and it's model number has af as the last two letters iirc

 

1 minute ago, snoopunit said:

I'm sorry what's the difference between 1600 and 1600af?

The 1600 af is a lower binned 2600 

It's basically a 2600

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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2 minutes ago, Neutraliz said:

Then, 3600.
But what do you have in term of GPU ?
If you don't really push your 3600, and the GPU is the bottleneck, you pretty much not gonna see any improvements.

Still running gtx 970 for now. Upgrading that as well, just not right now.

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Right now I have to say my favorite CPU in the lineup is the R5 3600 - the only reason I haven't replaced my 1700 is its OC puts it neck in neck on single core in benchmarks and smashes it with multicore (due to more cores) - or I would go with the R5 3600 on a budget.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

It's called a 1600 and it's model number has af as the last two letters iirc

 

The 1600 af is a lower binned 2600 

It's basically a 2600

The listing on amazon is showing (YD1600BBAFBOX)

 

3.2-3.6ghz

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1 minute ago, snoopunit said:

Still running gtx 970 for now. Upgrading that as well, just not right now.

Then, the 3600 make sens, at least for me.

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8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

It's called a 1600 and it's model number has af as the last two letters iirc

 

The 1600 af is a lower binned 2600 

It's basically a 2600

I'll give my input on the 1600af, although difficult to find now it is a very competent CPU. I'm using it mainly for 1080 and vr gaming, as well as learning python and sql. I have yet to run into a situation where it wasn't enough. If you can afford it though, I'd recommend a 3600...a 1600af is a good option if you're on a budget.

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Just now, snoopunit said:

The listing on amazon is showing (YD1600BBAFBOX)

 

This is the one you bought I would assume 

Then yes you got a 1600 af 

It's a pretty good chip, if your satisfied with the current performance then keep it 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

This is the one you bought I would assume 

Then yes you got a 1600 af 

It's a pretty good chip, if your satisfied with the current performance then keep it 

Out of curiosity, how much is is it selling for? A few months ago, you could buy these for $85 which was a steal...

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Just checked some benchmarks - the i7 you have, if you could overclock it, will perform similarly to a 3600 unless you need more cores/threads - just a thought when on a budget.  Games like Warzone, which leverage on my machines all 16 threads would greatly benefit to the larger core count.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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1 minute ago, steelo said:

Out of curiosity, how much is is it selling for?

According to OP

He got it for 100 bucks 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

According to OP

He got it for 100 bucks 

Sorry, must've missed that...

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2 minutes ago, Neutraliz said:

Then, the 3600 make sens, at least for 

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Out of curiosity, how much is is it selling for? A few months ago, you could buy these for $85 which was a steal...

Yea I saw a listing of $85 on bonanza.com? Just never heard of it and figured it wasnt worth the risk

 

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34 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Just checked some benchmarks - the i7 you have, if you could overclock it, will perform similarly to a 3600 unless you need more cores/threads - just a thought when on a budget.  Games like Warzone, which leverage on my machines all 16 threads would greatly benefit to the larger core count.

I'm actually more concerned with the daily performance difference between 1600/3600 cpus. I understand my 4820k isnt really slow or bad, but I'm having issues with the whole system since the majority of the parts were used when I got them and my system has become more and more unstable as time goes on. I've tried several remedies to isolate the issue, but cant seem to pinpoint the problem. 

 

I've been wanting to upgrade to ddr4/m.2 for a while

 

Just trying to see if almost doubling my cpu budget would be worth it. 

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42 minutes ago, snoopunit said:

I'm actually more concerned with the daily performance difference between 1600/3600 cpus. I understand my 4820k isnt really slow or bad, but I'm having issues with the whole system since the majority of the parts were used when I got them and my system has become more and more unstable as time goes on. I've tried several remedies to isolate the issue, but cant seem to pinpoint the problem. 

 

I've been wanting to upgrade to ddr4/m.2 for a while

 

Just trying to see if almost doubling my cpu budget would be worth it. 

I personally look at $100 = 10% its a consideration - the 1600af stock is approx. 10% slower than the 3600 - and will (the 3600) overclock better (imho) than the 1600af.  If the price is under $100 (and I could afford it without missing a beat) I would consider the 3600 (but that's me personally) as the buy will last you longer in the long run.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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