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Dell X10XX Switch VLAN Config

Naterr

Having some novice issues with VLAN config on a Dell X10XX series switch. Here is my scenario...

The switch is placed in a cabinet that will supply internet access to two ports for our maintenance equipment, but I want to set them on a VLAN in order to keep them seperated from our other machines. That switch is supplied via SFP port from another switch.

Here is the issue, I have a duplicate switch on my desk that I am testing before I copy config and upload to switch in room (room is very hot/humid)

I place gi1/0/1 port on VLAN 35, and I have no internet access. The test switch is connected to the network along with 2 PC's for testing and they both have internet access on all other ports, but if I plug a PC to that port 1, there is no internet access, I can't ping the switch via the PC directly connected, nor can I ping google. 

 

What small step am I missing?

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Can you make a network diagram?

 

Is vlan 35 connected to a gateway? That is the expected result if you but a device on a vlan on its one.

 

Did you give the switch  a ip on vlan 35?

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6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Can you make a network diagram?

 

Is vlan 35 connected to a gateway? That is the expected result if you but a device on a vlan on its one.

 

Did you give the switch  a ip on vlan 35?

All I've done is reset to factory, assigned static IP to switch, created VLAN 35 (literally just create it and named it)  and assigned port 1 to VLAN 35 and trunked it. I am not used to the GUI of this Dell, and the CLI commands I've used are not working on this firmware. I think I am just doing everything wrong, and need to go back through technically. 

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1 minute ago, Naterr said:

All I've done is reset to factory, assigned static IP to switch, created VLAN 35 (literally just create it and named it)  and assigned port 1 to VLAN 35 and trunked it. I am not used to the GUI of this Dell, and the CLI commands I've used are not working on this firmware. I think I am just doing everything wrong, and need to go back through technically. 

yup thats the expected result then.

 

You basically make a seuprate switch with one port that pc can connect to. There is no other device it can talk to.

 

You want to normally add anouther port that uses that vlan, add that to a router, than then use that router to let it connect to other devices on the network.

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3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

yup thats the expected result then.

 

You basically make a seuprate switch with one port that pc can connect to. There is no other device it can talk to.

 

You want to normally add anouther port that uses that vlan, add that to a router, than then use that router to let it connect to other devices on the network.

In this case, I can connect this switch to the unmanaged switch to give it access to the network. Now that this Dell is connected to the network (which means internet access) but does the unmanaged switch prevent VLAN's?

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1 minute ago, Naterr said:

In this case, I can connect this switch to the unmanaged switch to give it access to the network. Now that this Dell is connected to the network (which means internet access) but does the unmanaged switch prevent VLAN's?

Do these devices your setting up need access to the internet? 

 

Vlans are layer 2, so they don't control packets based off ip address.

 

I think a network diagram would help a good amount here.

 

If you wnt to set it up so these devices can only access the internet and no local devices, you would need a router or filewall that would block them from access your local network.

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Do these devices your setting up need access to the internet? 

 

Vlans are layer 2, so they don't control packets based off ip address.

 

I think a network diagram would help a good amount here.

 

If you wnt to set it up so these devices can only access the internet and no local devices, you would need a router or filewall that would block them from access your local network.

The devices primary need is internet access (for employees to view status via cloud), but no LAN access (no need to communicate to other devices). The initial setup here (before I came here) was to add them to their own VLAN to accomplish the goal.

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BTW, thank you so much for replying and helping. 

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Just now, Naterr said:

The devices primary need is internet access (for employees to view status via cloud), but no LAN access (no need to communicate to other devices). The initial setup here (before I came here) was to add them to their own VLAN to accomplish the goal.

adding a vlan alone won't do this. Vlans just make it easier to manage a configuration like this. 

 

You need a router/firewall to limit the access for this device.

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8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

adding a vlan alone won't do this. Vlans just make it easier to manage a configuration like this. 

 

You need a router/firewall to limit the access for this device.

Either can do that, correct?

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2 minutes ago, Naterr said:

Either can do that, correct?

either of what can do it?

 

Im pretty sure thats a l2 switch so it doesn't have a firewall built in. Id just get a cheap little router like a edge router or a mikrotik device.

 

Or better yet, run the link to the swithc as a vlan trunk and making a interface on your router for devices that need wan only.

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