Bare die Threadripper but done the LTT way

[Master Disaster]

I'm sure most of you guys are aware of Der8auer (Roman). He recently posted an excellent video on de lidding AMD Threadrippers, if you haven't seen it then you should...

 

 

Without spoiling to much his conclusion is you should not de lid a TR, its a very bad idea.

 

This got me thinking though, with LTT having both a CAD expert and a machining expert on staff plus access to their own machine shop, would it be possible for them to modify something, or even fabricate something from scratch, that would do a better job? There's a few different and interesting problems to solve so it could make for an interesting video. They could even get Roman involved in some way, perhaps send their creation over for him to test.

[Tamesh16]

they could de-lid and make a new cpu block from scratch, but i am sure its not worth the effort 

[Master Disaster]

Just now, Tamesh16 said:

they could de-lid and make a new cpu block from scratch, but i am sure its not worth the effort 

I disagree, its exactly the type of project that Linus hired Alex and spent thousands on a new machine shop to take on. Plus they've already gained lots of experience creating water blocks themselves when they did the Red Camera WC.

 

Its certainly more worth while than taping a water cooler to the bottom of a Mac Book.

[Skiiwee29]

I think at this point personally, the only real meaningful gains in cooling with delidding a soldered CPU, assuming you're even successful in the first place, would be a direct die cooling. Then you're presented with even more challenges if the actual packages are different heights to get tolerances correct to be effected in the direct die contact and cooling. 

[Master Disaster]

Just now, Skiiwee29 said:

I think at this point personally, the only real meaningful gains in cooling with delidding a soldered CPU, assuming you're even successful in the first place, would be a direct die cooling. Then you're presented with even more challenges if the actual packages are different heights to get tolerances correct to be effected in the direct die contact and cooling. 

See Romans video, all the packages are the same height to within a hundredth of a MM. The 2 main problems are getting even mounting pressure and the fact that even with seemingly good even pressure the temps are still off the chart.

[Skiiwee29]

20 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

See Romans video, all the packages are the same height to within a hundredth of a MM. The 2 main problems are getting even mounting pressure and the fact that even with seemingly good even pressure the temps are still off the chart.

Damn... if Derbauer cant get it.. no one will be able to IMO. Reading a few comments though seems to suggest a lot of the issue is the water block needing to be lapped and is upvoted heavily so seems to likely be some truth to it.