Which of these 4 builds?

[thebelgiumpope]

I will be streaming WoW and ESO when released on Ultra 1080p at 60fps min. Which of these is best?

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CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£229.98 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.44 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£91.69 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£53.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£47.99 @ Aria PC) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.95 @ Ebuyer) 

Case:  NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£38.65 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£44.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.83 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £950.40

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£229.98 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  (£19.30 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Novatech) 

Memory:  Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£53.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£47.99 @ Aria PC) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.95 @ Ebuyer) 

Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.88 @ Aria PC) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£53.28 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £948.26

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£229.98 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.44 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£139.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£75.36 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£61.56 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.98 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  (£269.72 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.88 @ Aria PC) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£53.28 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £943.19

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£229.98 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.44 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  ASRock Z87M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£81.44 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£62.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£47.99 @ Aria PC) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.99 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.95 @ Ebuyer) 

Case:  Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£31.79 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£53.28 @ Amazon UK) 

Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  (£11.83 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £950.68

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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[ericlee30]

You do not need the 4770K for streaming vid, the 4670K will do you just fine. Take the extra $100 you would spend on the 4770K and put it towards something more useful.

[thebelgiumpope]

You do not need the 4770K for streaming vid, the 4670K will do you just fine. Take the extra $100 you would spend on the 4770K and put it towards something more useful.

Like? haha

[Kevinkt]

You do not need the 4770K for streaming vid, the 4670K will do you just fine. Take the extra $100 you would spend on the 4770K and put it towards something more useful.

Eh. for streaming MMO it can be nice but im sure an 8350 will be better for streaming mmos/playing them at the same time.

[thebelgiumpope]

Eh. for streaming MMO it can be nice but im sure an 8350 will be better for streaming mmos/playing them at the same time.

Will it really matter? Its a I7 that will likely be future proof enough for pretty much any game?

[Guest GRRigger]

CX 600. Really? Omg.

 

Like? haha

For example better psu. Better cpu cooler. I will try to do build.

[ericlee30]

Like? haha

Better case, better cooling for the CPU, more SSD or HDD space, better motherboard with more bells and whistles to it. Maybe save it and add it to get a 780TI, the options are almost endless

[ericlee30]

Will it really matter? Its a I7 that will likely be future proof enough for pretty much any game?

One thing to learn about tech, nothing is future prof, by the time you get to utilizing the 4770K , the next best thing has came to the market.

[thebelgiumpope]

Better case, better cooling for the CPU, more SSD or HDD space, better motherboard with more bells and whistles to it. Maybe save it and add it to get a 780TI, the options are almost endless

Im getting this case btw.https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Midi+Tower/Corsair+Graphite+230T+Black+Midi+Windowed+Tower+Gaming+Case+with+Red+LED+Fans+?productId=57730

Im not needing anymore space. Im getting this MOBO https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+Socket/Socket+1150+-+Intel+Z87/MSI+Z87-G43+GAMING+Intel+Z87+%28Socket+1150%29+DDR3+ATX+Motherboard+?productId=57855

[Scionyde]

Eh. for streaming MMO it can be nice but im sure an 8350 will be better for streaming mmos/playing them at the same time.

 

I think he might be better off with a CPU that will get him the best single-threaded performance possible (unless ESO will take advantage of multiple cores?). When you get those zergs of players on screen, it'll probably help his fps a bit more.

 

EDIT: If he's going to want to stream his MMO playing, maybe he'll eventually want to record and edit some gameplay videos as well? The i7 might not be a bad choice then.

 

Also, any particular reason you picked the Corsair CX PSU in one build and the  XFX PSU in the other?

[thebelgiumpope]

One thing to learn about tech, nothing is future prof, by the time you get to utilizing the 4770K , the next best thing has came to the market.

But for now it will handle anything i throw at it and should do for more years than a i5 4670k, when i talk future proofing i mean how long it will last.

[thebelgiumpope]

I think he might be better off with a CPU that will get him the best single-threaded performance possible (unless ESO will take advantage of multiple cores?). When you get those zergs of players on screen, it'll probably help his fps a bit more.

Thank you, i completely agree.

[dizmo]

Will it really matter? Its a I7 that will likely be future proof enough for pretty much any game?

There is...no such thing.

 

Better case, better cooling for the CPU, more SSD or HDD space, better motherboard with more bells and whistles to it. Maybe save it and add it to get a 780TI, the options are almost endless

Case is subjective, he might not need more storage space, the CPU cooler is more than adequate. The 780 Ti is pretty overkill for 1080p gaming and not worth the extra almost 80% cost increase.

I'd say his build ideas are pretty solid.

 

@thebelgiumpope I would go with number one.

[Advent]

Here is what I would do:

Unless you plan of overclocking, ditch the K-series CPU.
Your CPU cooler is fine.
Get a 256 GB SSD and a 2-4 TB HDD if you can.
Get a 780 Ti.

Get a better PSU, 600W preferably.
Get a Fractal case like the Arc Mini R2.

To those naysaying the 780 Ti, streaming while playing puts a heavy load on the GPU. The stronger the card the better your stream and in game FPS are. I game @ 1080p on my 780 Ti and it is great. I can run every game @ max settings at 60 FPS or better for the most part, even while streaming/recording.

[ericlee30]

Im getting this case btw.https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Midi+Tower/Corsair+Graphite+230T+Black+Midi+Windowed+Tower+Gaming+Case+with+Red+LED+Fans+?productId=57730

Im not needing anymore space. Im getting this MOBO https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+Socket/Socket+1150+-+Intel+Z87/MSI+Z87-G43+GAMING+Intel+Z87+%28Socket+1150%29+DDR3+ATX+Motherboard+?productId=57855

Why not get get the MSI Z87-G65 and or say a Corsair 750D? Now Im just using those as examples not saying you really should go with those, but I just honestly think you can find a better way to spend the $100 on the 4770K on something else as an upgrade to something you might have already picked out.

[thebelgiumpope]

There is...no such thing.

 

Case is subjective, he might not need more storage space, the CPU cooler is more than adequate. The 780 Ti is pretty overkill for 1080p gaming and not worth the extra almost 80% cost increase.

I'd say his build ideas are pretty solid.

 

@thebelgiumpope I would go with number one.

Cheers mate, I mean by future proofing how many years it will be able to cope. Thats why spending extra £ for i7 is worth it. It WILL last longer.

[ericlee30]

There is...no such thing.

 

Case is subjective, he might not need more storage space, the CPU cooler is more than adequate. The 780 Ti is pretty overkill for 1080p gaming and not worth the extra almost 80% cost increase.

I'd say his build ideas are pretty solid.

 

@thebelgiumpope I would go with number one.

And the CPU is not? what you just said is my point

[thebelgiumpope]

Here is what I would do:

Unless you plan of overclocking ditch the K-series CPU.

Your CPU cooler is fine.

Get a 256 GB SSD and a 2-4 TB HDD if you can.

Get a 780 Ti.

Get a better PSU, 600W preferably.

I will be buying a 650W anyways as i have a local shop that do good deals. 780TI is BIG overkill for my system. im doing 1 monitor and for the price the one i have now is the best.

I dont need extra storage space. My laptop only has 250gb and after 8 years with it full of junk it only has used 200gb.

[ericlee30]

Cheers mate, I mean by future proofing how many years it will be able to cope. Thats why spending extra £ for i7 is worth it. It WILL last longer.

Its not worth it if you can never find away to utilize all the cores and threads. I could be wrong but if all you are wanting to do is stream games like WOW and ESO, not worth it bro, just a waste of money to be honest.

[thebelgiumpope]

And the CPU is not? what you just said is my point

 

Its common knowledge that I7 handle more applications better than i5. Live streaming can be heavy on the CPU and if i want ultra graphics the i5 WILL slow down.

[thebelgiumpope]

Its not worth it if you can never find away to utilize all the cores and threads. I could be wrong but if all you are wanting to do is stream games like WOW and ESO, not worth it bro, just a waste of money to be honest.

Who can predict what games i play in the future? This way i have pretty much every game covered.

[dizmo]

Cheers mate, I mean by future proofing how many years it will be able to cope. Thats why spending extra £ for i7 is worth it. It WILL last longer.

I still run a 2700k in my PC and it is more than up to the task. I figure 3 year cycles at the very least for CPU's.

 

Its not worth it if you can never find away to utilize all the cores and threads. I could be wrong but if all you are wanting to do is stream games like WOW and ESO, not worth it bro, just a waste of money to be honest.

There's no telling what the future holds with games. Maybe in a year or two he'll want to play a game and that game will utilize the cores.

For the minimal price increase, it's worth it imo.

 

And the CPU is not? what you just said is my point

Not really. The CPU isn't that much more of an investment. It's only 70 pound more than the 4670k.

The 780Ti is Almost 200 pound more than the 780.

You get much more out of the 4770k than you would out of the 780Ti.

[ericlee30]

Its common knowledge that I7 handle more applications better than i5. Live streaming can be heavy on the CPU and if i want ultra graphics the i5 WILL slow down.

OK its like this, I have the i7-3970X, on average I utilize 20% or less of the CPU most of the time, was it worth it for me? If you know you will utilize all of the CPU, then yeah the extra $100 is well worth it. Im not 100% sure what all your plans are for your rig, Im just saying if you are mainly going to stream PC games like WOW and ESO, its not worth the extra for the i7

[-iSynthesis]

You do not need the 4770K for streaming vid, the 4670K will do you just fine. Take the extra $100 you would spend on the 4770K and put it towards something more useful.

 

Eh. for streaming MMO it can be nice but im sure an 8350 will be better for streaming mmos/playing them at the same time.

8350 or 4770k. On tek syndicate`s vids we`ve seen the 8350 blow even an 3820 out of the water when it comes to streaming.

[thebelgiumpope]

I still run a 2700k in my PC and it is more than up to the task. I figure 3 year cycles at the very least for CPU's.

 

There's no telling what the future holds with games. Maybe in a year or two he'll want to play a game and that game will utilize the cores.

For the minimal price increase, it's worth it imo.

 

Not really. The CPU isn't that much more of an investment. It's only 70 pound more than the 4670k.

The 780Ti is Almost 200 pound more than the 780.

You get much more out of the 4770k than you would out of the 780Ti.

You are seeing my side perfectly. thanks