AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.4Ghz voltage value

[gokhyildiz]

Hello everyone, have a nice day,
I want to overclock the processor in the system I just collected. but I couldn't find the safest voltage value. What intervals do I think should I overclock?
On aida64, 4.4ghz@1.4v filled the test without problems for 15 minutes, but at 4.5ghz@1.4v the test failed and was interrupted. Do you think I can use 4.4ghz@1.3v with 24/7 overclocking? Or would you recommend me to use 4.3ghz@1.3v?
Thank you.

 

my desktop pc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KgeJsGPmpQ3GhRR-iHAaw0EL369N-WXgmwBAOGUZZDY

my passmark and aida64 results on the attachment.

[Haro]

Overclocking doesn't really make sense for zen as performance gains are not  huge 

If you want set the voltage to 1.35 (offset) and see where you would go from there 

If I were you I would focus on over clocking the ram rather than the cpu 

[GoldenLag]

10 minutes ago, gokhyildiz said:

Do you think I can use 4.4ghz@1.3v with 24/7 overclocking? Or would you recommend me to use 4.3ghz@1.3v?

Either is fine. Just dont use 1.4v as that will degrade the CPU very quickly

[Deli]

10 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Overclocking doesn't really make sense for zen as performance gains are not  huge 

If you want set the voltage to 1.35 (offset) and see where you would go from there 

If I were you I would focus on over clocking the ram rather than the cpu 

Depends. For 3900X, probably not. For 3600(non X), the boost clock is only 4.2GHz. You can easily overclock it to 4.3GHz or even 4.4GHz. Both single and multicore with benefit from the overclocking.

[Deli]

If you can run it stable 4.4Ghz for 1.3v, it will be great. Try run AIDA64 for a couple of hours to make sure it's stable. 15min isn't enough. I built a PC two weeks ago for a friend with 3600. His chip needs 1.32v to be stable at 4.4Ghz. I think 1.325 is the max safe voltage for 24/7 use.

[gokhyildiz]

2 hours ago, Deli said:

If you can run it stable 4.4Ghz for 1.3v, it will be great. Try run AIDA64 for a couple of hours to make sure it's stable. 15min isn't enough. I built a PC two weeks ago for a friend with 3600. His chip needs 1.32v to be stable at 4.4Ghz. I think 1.325 is the max safe voltage for 24/7 use.

Thank you for your answer, when I use the processor at stock values, it works at 4.0ghz@1.3v. Well, if I set it to operate safely at 4.2ghz@1.2v for a long time, can I use it without problems? For now, my goal is to use the processor for a long time without problem degradation (maybe at least 5 years).

[Haro]

1 minute ago, gokhyildiz said:

if I set it to operate safely at 4.2ghz@1.2v for a long time, can I use it without problems?

1.2 is fine 

[Deli]

5 hours ago, gokhyildiz said:

Thank you for your answer, when I use the processor at stock values, it works at 4.0ghz@1.3v. Well, if I set it to operate safely at 4.2ghz@1.2v for a long time, can I use it without problems? For now, my goal is to use the processor for a long time without problem degradation (maybe at least 5 years).

Every chip is different. Yours may need different voltage to be stable at a certain clock speed.

 

After finished building the PC for a friend. We tested it at 4.0, 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4GHz all core overclock. The Asus motherboard that we used also set 1.3v for 4.0Ghz boost as default. Which is too high for most 3600.

That CPU needs 1.32v for 4.4GHz, 1.26v for 4.3GHz, 1.21v for 4.2Ghz and 1.08v for 4.0Ghz. We ended up settle on 4.3Ghz because of the temperature issue. At 4.4GHz even with a 240mm AIO, it peaked at 80C. It's a bit hotter than we prefer. At 4.3GHz, it'll peak at around 72C. We also try 4.0GHz all core. Max temp 54C, pretty amazing. Also with a set vcore, the temperature is more stable without jumping around too much. It idles nicely at about 38C(OC to 4.3GHz).

 

I know using a 240mm AIO is overkill for R5 3600. But it's my friend's preference. It's his money. If it's up to me, I'd pick a nice air cooler, like the Scythe Mugen 5 for $40. Which is plenty for a R5 3600 with OC.

 

I won't worry of degradation with 1.3v the way we use our machines. Unless you run it at max load all the time 24 hours a day, everyday, every week.

[TheDankKoosh]

1.3v should be fine on the 3600, but you should stay there or below that voltage, if you can manage 4.3ghz at 1.3v the I'd go for it since it's a pretty sizable OC from stock, DRAM speed and latency is a bit more important on Zen cpus though, so I'd grab dram calculator and set a good profile for your ram. 

[gokhyildiz]

56 minutes ago, Deli said:

Every chip is different. Yours may need different voltage to be stable at a certain clock speed.

 

After finished building the PC for a friend. We tested it at 4.0, 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4GHz all core overclock. The Asus motherboard that we used also set 1.3v for 4.0Ghz boost as default. Which is too high for most 3600.

That CPU needs 1.32v for 4.4GHz, 1.26v for 4.3GHz, 1.21v for 4.2Ghz and 1.08v for 4.0Ghz. We ended up settle on 4.3Ghz because of the temperature issue. At 4.4GHz even with a 240mm AIO, it peaked at 80C. It's a bit hotter than we prefer. At 4.3GHz, it'll peak at around 72C. We also try 4.0GHz all core. Max temp 54C, pretty amazing. Also with a set vcore, the temperature is more stable without jumping around too much. It idles nicely at about 38C(OC to 4.3GHz).

 

I know using a 240mm AIO is overkill for R5 3600. But it's my friend's preference. It's his money. If it's up to me, I'd pick a nice air cooler, like the Scythe Mugen 5 for $40. Which is plenty for a R5 3600 with OC.

 

I won't worry of degradation with 1.3v the way we use our machines. Unless you run it at max load all the time 24 hours a day, everyday, every week.

Thank you for your comment, I plan to overclock as long as my motherboard allows. the maximum thermal value (tdp) of the processor is 65 w. Accordingly, I exceed this threshold value in all overclocking scenarios I have done, and does this not cause my processor to degrading in the long run? As long as I confirm that it is between 65-75w and safe, I want to overclock at 4.3ghz or 4.2ghz with the values you provide.

[gokhyildiz]

50 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

1.3v should be fine on the 3600, but you should stay there or below that voltage, if you can manage 4.3ghz at 1.3v the I'd go for it since it's a pretty sizable OC from stock, DRAM speed and latency is a bit more important on Zen cpus though, so I'd grab dram calculator and set a good profile for your ram. 

thank you for your comment, my motherboard offers a maximum of 3600mhz ram support and my rams are running at 3600mhz cl16 speed. Do you think I need to make another adjustment? thanks.

[Deli]

8 minutes ago, gokhyildiz said:

Thank you for your comment, I plan to overclock as long as my motherboard allows. the maximum thermal value (tdp) of the processor is 65 w. Accordingly, I exceed this threshold value in all overclocking scenarios I have done, and does this not cause my processor to degrading in the long run? As long as I confirm that it is between 65-75w and safe, I want to overclock at 4.3ghz or 4.2ghz with the values you provide.

The 65w thing doesn't mean anything. As long as you have enough cooling and load temperature is good. There isn't much to concern. Even at 4.4GHz, I remember the CPU draws ~95w, it won't degrade the CPU.

[Deli]

12 minutes ago, gokhyildiz said:

thank you for your comment, my motherboard offers a maximum of 3600mhz ram support and my rams are running at 3600mhz cl16 speed. Do you think I need to make another adjustment? thanks.

There are many sub timings for the RAM, which helps performance quite a bit. You can choose to leave it as it is, is also fine.

 

Hardware Unboxed has a detailed video for RAM tuning.

https://youtu.be/KOqhyVNPhaM

[gokhyildiz]

4 minutes ago, Deli said:

The 65w thing doesn't mean anything. As long as you have enough cooling and load temperature is good. There isn't much to concern. Even at 4.4GHz, I remember the CPU draws ~95w, it won't degrade the CPU.

So do I need to set a different state except for 1.26v for 4.3GHz in my ryzen master program? Is only voltage and frequency adjustment sufficient?

[Deli]

1 minute ago, gokhyildiz said:

So do I need to set a different state except for 1.26v for 4.3GHz in my ryzen master program? Is only voltage and frequency adjustment sufficient?

Only voltage and frequency.

[gokhyildiz]

16 minutes ago, Deli said:

Only voltage and frequency.

okay thank you so much, i will look dram calculator.

[TheDankKoosh]

14 minutes ago, gokhyildiz said:

okay thank you so much, i will look dram calculator.

You'll need to know what die revision is on your ram sticks, I could probably tell you if you link me the kit or just give me the XMP profile

[gokhyildiz]

6 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

You'll need to know what die revision is on your ram sticks, I could probably tell you if you link me the kit or just give me the XMP profile

thank you. my specs,

Mainboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (Stock)

CPU Cooler: Snowman M-T6, stock thermal paste (Halnziye hy510)

Ram: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16) DDR4 3600 Mhz CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4R

[TheDankKoosh]

6 minutes ago, gokhyildiz said:

thank you. my specs,

Mainboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (Stock)

CPU Cooler: Snowman M-T6, stock thermal paste (Halnziye hy510)

Ram: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16) DDR4 3600 Mhz CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4R

That kit is micron rev. e kit also know as micron e die in the ryzen dram calculator, set the speed to 3600 and the memory rank to 2 and use the fast profile, should work like a charm, especially since that is a high bin kit of rev. e

[ryzen5guy541]

I was able to overclock my 3600 at 4.4 ghz at 1.1v with +.15 offset with leak voltage reaching 1.264v. Load line calibration on mode 3 on msi gaming plus max . my temps were lowered and voltage lowered compared to it at 1.27v static

[cheesecake16]

1 hour ago, ryzen5guy541 said:

I was able to overclock my 3600 at 4.4 ghz at 1.1v with +.15 offset with leak voltage reaching 1.264v. Load line calibration on mode 3 on msi gaming plus max . my temps were lowered and voltage lowered compared to it at 1.27v static

Did you stability test it or is that just for benchmarking?

[Cole33194]

On 6/13/2020 at 5:12 PM, TheDankKoosh said:

You'll need to know what die revision is on your ram sticks, I could probably tell you if you link me the kit or just give me the XMP profile

Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TRRT16?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
 

do you have any preferences for this kit? I have 2 kits (totaling at 32gb). Noticed his was Ballistix but 3600 instead of 3200. Wondering if I could get some side advice from this to get some faster speeds.

[freeagent]

1.3 is probably a little high for all core all loads. I would get back down to the mid 1.2s if you can.

[TheDankKoosh]

On 6/18/2021 at 5:24 AM, Cole33194 said:

Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TRRT16?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
 

do you have any preferences for this kit? I have 2 kits (totaling at 32gb). Noticed his was Ballistix but 3600 instead of 3200. Wondering if I could get some side advice from this to get some faster speeds.

That kit is most likely micron rev. e, I would suggest using ryzen dram calculator for a decent set of timings, 3600 is perfectly reasonable for your kits, though you might not be able to get as tight of timings