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Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone has any experience overclocking the -9600KF as a lot of the games I play are CPU bound and I am thinking about trying to get it near the 5GHz mark. I've already got to 4.8GHz boost on all cores (default is 4.6GHz on cores 0 and 1 I think) using the Intel XTU (and the BIOS to get all cores up to boost speed) but anything over that so far has caused a crash, I'm convinced this is to do with the voltages as my temps under load are fine (74­°C max in cinebench R20) and the voltages are what worry me the most about overclocking. Motherboard and power delivery aren't issues either as I have a Z390-A PRO and a 750W PSU. I'd really appreciate it if anyone had any tips for a relatively novice overclocker, or even better, any specific overclocking advice for the -9600K or 9600KF as they are essentially the same chip. Thank you!

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What voltage do you have set currently?

Also have you tried setting ipce and seeing where that came get you ?

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

What voltage do you have set currently?

Also have you tried setting ipce and seeing where that came get you ?

Right now I'm not too sure about the voltage, I haven't changed it at all. What would be sensible and safe increments to increase it by though, would increasing by 0.5V then testing each time be a good idea?

I'm assuming the ipce is in the BIOS right? What will that change?

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2 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

would increasing by 0.5V then testing each time be a good idea?

That could work 

The way I go about things is increasing the frequency by a bit let's say increasing the multiplier by 100mhz 

So for e.g from let's say 4.6 to 4.7 etc and then if I hit a road block I increase the voltage by a bit so let's say + 0.4-0.5 

If you want to do that

It's a pain and it does take time but it could work 

It you want you can try 1.35-1.4 and then try 5ghz

And maybe you can set an LLC profile

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My 8600K (basically the same CPU) ran at 5.0 GHz at ~1.3 Volts all day(sorry, can't remember exact value, maybe even 1.35V) It ran 5.2 GHz aswell but only at ridiculous voltage over 1.4. My cooler was a bequiet Dark Rock pro 4. Temps were around 80°C while under cinebench load, while gaming more 60-70°C.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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22 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

would increasing by 0.5V then testing each time be a good idea?

I hope you meant 0.05V, not 0.5V.

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Thank you for all the replies!

45 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I hope you meant 0.05V, not 0.5V.

Yeah sorry, was looking in the XTU and got myself confused, I'm wanting to avoid frying my CPU lol

56 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

My 8600K (basically the same CPU) ran at 5.0 GHz at ~1.3 Volts all day(sorry, can't remember exact value, maybe even 1.35V) It ran 5.2 GHz aswell but only at ridiculous voltage over 1.4. My cooler was a bequiet Dark Rock pro 4. Temps were around 80°C while under cinebench load, while gaming more 60-70°C.

Nice, vielen Dank, I'll make sure to give it a go. Does bumping the voltage up too high for a short amount of time pose a big risk to the lifespan of the CPU?

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

That could work 

The way I go about things is increasing the frequency by a bit let's say increasing the multiplier by 100mhz 

So for e.g from let's say 4.6 to 4.7 etc and then if I hit a road block I increase the voltage by a bit so let's say + 0.4-0.5 

If you want to do that

It's a pain and it does take time but it could work 

It you want you can try 1.35-1.4 and then try 5ghz

And maybe you can set an LLC profile

Brilliant thank you, I've already got 4.8GHz stable which is a 200MHz overclock with no changes to voltages or anything else (except setting it on all 6 cores) but I'll then try 4.9, 5.0 and so on with slightly increasing voltages until I reach a stable value. What is an LLC profile?

 

 

Just a last question, what would be the absolute maximum value I should set the voltage to (so I know to avoid it) and will this damage or decrease the lifespan of my CPU at all?

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Just now, bengeoghegan11 said:

Just a last question, what would be the absolute maximum value I should set the voltage to (so I know to avoid it) and will this damage or decrease the lifespan of my CPU at all?

With that board nothing more than 1.4

 

Just now, bengeoghegan11 said:

What is an LLC profile

Basically it's a profile that allows the cpu to ask for more voltage to it can boost higher 

This is a rough explanation but you can read about it it's pretty fun 

If you have that option you can set it to auto and it should be fine 

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7 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

Nice, vielen Dank, I'll make sure to give it a go. Does bumping the voltage up too high for a short amount of time pose a big risk to the lifespan of the CPU?

 

Just a last question, what would be the absolute maximum value I should set the voltage to (so I know to avoid it) and will this damage or decrease the lifespan of my CPU at all?

Voltage up to 1.4 should be fine and not Change the lifespan that much. I'd say max 1.35 to 1.4 should be safe for 24/7 use. Just keep in mind, the lower you can get the voltage at your OC the lower the temps will be. So keep it as low as possible while still being stable.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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9 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

Yeah sorry, was looking in the XTU and got myself confused, I'm wanting to avoid frying my CPU lol

Cool, just making sure haha.

10 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

Just a last question, what would be the absolute maximum value I should set the voltage to (so I know to avoid it) and will this damage or decrease the lifespan of my CPU at all?

For 24/7 usage, I like to stay under 1.35V, but some will say that anything up to 1.4V is still just fine. Over that though is kind of high imo, especially for long-term usage.

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11 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Over that though is kind of high imo, especially for long-term usage.

I agree 1.4 is a little high but for something like a pretty hefty overclock 1.4 isn't bad 

And that board while it doesn't have the best power delivery it should handle it no problem 

But 1.35 could still work ;)

 

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Thanks again everyone, I've got it to 4.9GHz stable with 1.35V and temps almost at 80°C in the XTU test (what is the highest temp I should avoid btw, bearing in mind before trying to OC today I was getting between 50-60°C in CPU intensive games?). I'm now getting current limit throttling, which luckily I can see can be easily changed with the XTU but I'm not sure what values are safe?

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Just now, bengeoghegan11 said:

what is the highest temp I should avoid btw,

90 and above 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

90 and above 

Nice, thank you, do you know what the maximum value for ICC I should avoid?

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