Looking to get a new Camera!

[FineVisionz]

Hello,

Looking to upgrade from my Canon T3. My budget is around $600.

Requirements...

• 4k video
• interchangeable lenses
• At least 16mp photos
• Decent low light performance
• Doesn't have to be Canon, open to any brand

Thanks!

-FineV

[AbydosOne]

11 minutes ago, FineVisionz said:

My budget is around $600.

11 minutes ago, FineVisionz said:

• 4k video
• interchangeable lenses

I don't think there's a camera that can check those three boxes at the same time. There are pro-sumer point-n-shoots that have 4K video, but most cameras with lens mounts and 4K run much higher than $600. Maybe something like a Panasonic Lumix FZ300, but that doesn't hit your MP requirement.

 

[FineVisionz]

34 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

I don't think there's a camera that can check those three boxes at the same time. There are pro-sumer point-n-shoots that have 4K video, but most cameras with lens mounts and 4K run much higher than $600. Maybe something like a Panasonic Lumix FZ300, but that doesn't hit your MP requirement.

 

A camera that kept popping up while doing research was the Panasonic G7. 

I just wanted to see what other people recommended before I decide on the G7 or not.

[GDRRiley]

X-t200 is similar in many ways to the G7 but has better stills res and should have better low light

they are about 700$

really most of the sub 1k options aren't a big upgrade over you t3

 

[Action_Johnson]

12 hours ago, FineVisionz said:

Hello,

Looking to upgrade from my Canon T3. My budget is around $600.

Requirements...

• 4k video
• interchangeable lenses
• At least 16mp photos
• Decent low light performance
• Doesn't have to be Canon, open to any brand

Thanks!

-FineV

Easy:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1351009-REG/olympus_v207072su010_om_d_e_m10_mark_iii.html

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802121315-USE/olympus_261505_m_zuiko_digital_ed_40_150mm.html

 

The E-M10mk3 is a GREAT little camera. You can get them in either black or silver. Pair it with the 40-150mm for $80, and you're off to the races!

 

16MP

4k video

*phenomenal* IBIS (great in the dark)

biggest lens selection on earth

looks great

 

I can shoot 90% of my jobs on that little camera just fine.

[FineVisionz]

10 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

Easy:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1351009-REG/olympus_v207072su010_om_d_e_m10_mark_iii.html

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802121315-USE/olympus_261505_m_zuiko_digital_ed_40_150mm.html

 

The E-M10mk3 is a GREAT little camera. You can get them in either black or silver. Pair it with the 40-150mm for $80, and you're off to the races!

 

16MP

4k video

*phenomenal* IBIS (great in the dark)

biggest lens selection on earth

looks great

 

I can shoot 90% of my jobs on that little camera just fine.

Wow!  I'll have to look more into this one.  I'm surprised that they are still making cameras with this older styling.  

[Action_Johnson]

Yeah and its actually small enough where you'd take it with you places. It's got wi-fi built in, so you can take some snaps, super easy send them to your phone, and send them off. I do it all the time on my two Oly's. 

[GDRRiley]

4 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

Yeah and its actually small enough where you'd take it with you places. It's got wi-fi built in, so you can take some snaps, super easy send them to your phone, and send them off. I do it all the time on my two Oly's. 

basically every other camera has that feature from like 2016 onwards

31 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

Easy:

I'm not really convinced it is.

16mp is really not good in 2020. it lacks the 24-32 I'd expect in this price range in 2020

its got bad autofocus

it over sharpens jpegs

4k video at 100mbs is lackluster

 

its a sidegrade more than a proper upgrade.

you need a bigger budget to really get something better than the t3 for photos and video while it has increased in bitrate on may of these lower end isn't really there. you want 150-200 on the low side for 4k

[Action_Johnson]

32 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

basically every other camera has that feature from like 2016 onwards

I'm not really convinced it is.

16mp is really not good in 2020. it lacks the 24-32 I'd expect in this price range in 2020

its got bad autofocus

it over sharpens jpegs

4k video at 100mbs is lackluster

 

its a sidegrade more than a proper upgrade.

you need a bigger budget to really get something better than the t3 for photos and video while it has increased in bitrate on may of these lower end isn't really there. you want 150-200 on the low side for 4k

Nobody shopping for a $600 camera gives a f*ck about the bitrate of the video, 16MP is FINE, and in no way will the difference between 16 and 24MP make or break a shot, CDAF is inherently more accurate than PDAF for anything outside of sports and requires zero AF fine tuning, every camera has lousy jpegs.

 

I don't see it as a side grade because the way mirrorless cameras operate with a live view feed all the time, they're easier to learn on and improve ones photography over an SLR.

[GDRRiley]

5 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

Nobody shopping for a $600 camera gives a f*ck about the bitrate of the video, 16MP is FINE, and in no way will the difference between 16 and 24MP make or break a shot, CDAF is inherently more accurate than PDAF for anything outside of sports and requires zero AF fine tuning, every camera has lousy jpegs.

 

I don't see it as a side grade because the way mirrorless cameras operate with a live view feed all the time, they're easier to learn on and improve ones photography over an SLR.

take a crop and you'll quickly wish you had more res. basically every canon camera in the last 5-6 years uses CDAF branded as dual pixel AF but can also use PDAF.

the xt200 has a hybrid

 

there is an option on basically every canon if you want to shoot live view with the screen can often also bring the better AF. the t3 will do it. really most people just should be able to get close enough with the scale at the bottom then tweak the raw in post to make it perfect

[FineVisionz]

19 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

basically every other camera has that feature from like 2016 onwards

I'm not really convinced it is.

16mp is really not good in 2020. it lacks the 24-32 I'd expect in this price range in 2020

its got bad autofocus

it over sharpens jpegs

4k video at 100mbs is lackluster

 

its a sidegrade more than a proper upgrade.

you need a bigger budget to really get something better than the t3 for photos and video while it has increased in bitrate on may of these lower end isn't really there. you want 150-200 on the low side for 4k

What camera would you consider an upgrade compaired to the T3 if my budget were to be increased?

[GDRRiley]

14 minutes ago, FineVisionz said:

What camera would you consider an upgrade compaired to the T3 if my budget were to be increased?

the M6mkii, 90D are both great upgrades but given none can be found used/refurbished they are around 1-1.2K

 

XT-30, A6100 A6400 or 6500, refurbished eos RP

 

the thing is most now 400-600$ cameras are still not all that different from older 800-1K$ ones