2060 bottlenecking 3100?

[awesomecdudley]

So, I'm speccing out a computer for my cousin. I've got everything done, and I just need to know if a 2060 will bottleneck a Ryzen 3 3100. Playing at 1080p and 144hz.

[The_russian]

No, if anything the 3100 will bottleneck the 2060.

[awesomecdudley]

1 minute ago, The_russian said:

No, if anything the 3100 will bottleneck the 2060.

good. that means he can upgrade to a better card later. we'll probably overclock.

[Alex Atkin UK]

21 minutes ago, awesomecdudley said:

good. that means he can upgrade to a better card later. we'll probably overclock.

You got that backwards, they said the 3100 may bottleneck the GPU in which case getting a newer card would likely have zero benefit.

[The_russian]

45 minutes ago, awesomecdudley said:

good. that means he can upgrade to a better card later. we'll probably overclock.

Yeah like @Alex Atkin UK said, you got that backwards. If you/he upgrade in the future, you should upgrade the cpu first, not the graphics card.

[awesomecdudley]

my bad. I can't read. If I overclock it to match the 3300X, would it make a difference?

[awesomecdudley]

1 hour ago, The_russian said:

Yeah like @Alex Atkin UK said, you got that backwards. If you/he upgrade in the future, you should upgrade the cpu first, not the graphics card.

my bad. I can't read. If I overclock it to match the 3300X, would it make a difference?

 

[Promosss]

1 minute ago, awesomecdudley said:

my bad. I can't read. If I overclock it to match the 3300X, would it make a difference?

 

You can't overclock a 3100 to match a 3300X, not possible. The 3300X runs a 4+0 core configuration with everything on one CCD, on one CCX, while the 3100 runs a 2+2 configuration on two CCXs on that CCD. So the performance will never be equal no matter how much you overclock the 3100.

[awesomecdudley]

1 minute ago, Promosss said:

You can't overclock a 3100 to match a 3300X, not possible. The 3300X runs a 4+0 core configuration with everything on one CCD, on one CCX, while the 3100 runs a 2+2 configuration on two CCXs on that CCD. So the performance will never be equal no matter how much you overclock the 3100.

rewording then, if I get a 3300X is it still bottlenecked

[Promosss]

Just now, awesomecdudley said:

rewording then, if I get a 3300X is it still bottlenecked

Nope, the 3300x won't bottleneck a 2060.

[awesomecdudley]

Just now, Promosss said:

Nope, the 3300x won't bottleneck a 2060.

thanks.

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 hour ago, Promosss said:

Nope, the 3300x won't bottleneck a 2060.

Personally I'd still want at least 6 real cores, I saw a huge improvement in frame rate stability going from 4 to 6 and then 6 to 8.  Granted, I'm on a 2080 but I think it did when I was on a 1070 Ti too.

[awesomecdudley]

Just now, Alex Atkin UK said:

Personally I'd still want at least 6 real cores, I saw a huge improvement in frame rate reliability going from 4 to 6 and then 6 to 8.  Granted, I'm on a 2080 but I think it did when I was on a 1070 Ti too.

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe a 3600/X or a 2600/X. We could get it to match the 3300X in clock.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Just now, awesomecdudley said:

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe a 3600/X or a 2600/X. We could get it to match the 3300X in clock.

Basically my thinking is, look at what the new consoles have for CPUs.  That is likely to show us the direction games will be going.  You can perhaps get away with having less cores if they are faster ones, but certainly if you want any kind of future proofing its worth thinking about carefully.

[awesomecdudley]

Just now, Alex Atkin UK said:

Basically my thinking is, look at what the new consoles have for CPUs.  That is likely to show us the direction games will be going.  You can perhaps get away with having less cores if they are faster ones, but certainly if you want any kind of future proofing its worth thinking about carefully.

That makes sense. I totally see what you mean. If I can slip an 8 core in the build, I will.

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 minute ago, awesomecdudley said:

That makes sense. I totally see what you mean. If I can slip an 8 core in the build, I will.

Of course a few years down the line, you can always upgrade the CPU to the maximum the board can handle.  It really depends how long you want the build to work before an upgrade.

Going AMD is more future proof in itself I think, simply down to them being able to handle faster SSDs once available.