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New Samsung EVO 860 1tb running slowly

Hi,

First time poster here.

I just fitted a 1tb Samsung EVO 860 to my 5 yr old Dell Inspiron 5558 to replace its stock HDD (5,400 RPM) - I cloned it directly, so in theory speed should be 4/5x faster.

The thing is, i'm just not feeling the speed (although I very much 'feel the need' 馃槈). I ran Samsung Magician benchmark and my iops are really slow, I double checked it with CrystalDiskMark and my RND4K was 6k.

Any advice as to why its so slow?

Thanks

ps. R.A.P.I.D is off

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looks normal to me

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wow i did not expect such fast responses. Thanks so much SavageNeo

I guess its just my machine then, everything is so slow. On boot up it takes me a good 3-5 min after login to be able to do anything. My CPU (i5-5250u) is always 100% maxed out and for those 5 min its usually 100% system interrupts.

Maybe its time to replace the laptop. It just seems to not be doing so well

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2 minutes ago, polymer3 said:

wow i did not expect such fast responses. Thanks so much SavageNeo

I guess its just my machine then, everything is so slow. On boot up it takes me a good 3-5 min after login to be able to do anything. My CPU (i5-5250u) is always 100% maxed out and for those 5 min its usually 100% system interrupts.

Maybe its time to replace the laptop. It just seems to not be doing so well

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3 minutes ago, polymer3 said:

wow i did not expect such fast responses.

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Which OS do you run (presumeably Windows 10)? I have an old laptop from 2011 with an i5 2520M and it still runs like a charm (also with a SSD).

Your CPU shouldn't be overwhelmed by running a modern OS anyway. It might be worth checking whether you have a lot of programs starting at boot and which kind of background processes are running during normal operation.

Edit: 100% CPU utilisation is what lead me to my thoughts above. Maybe it's time to do a fresh install of your OS. It can do wonders ;)

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perfectly normal speeds bro, u didnt buy NVME m.2, its SATA SSD

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Just now, Kon-Tiki said:

Which OS do you run (presumeably Windows 10)? I have an old laptop from 2011 with an i5 2520M and it still runs like a charm (also with a SSD).

Your CPU shouldn't be overwhelmed by running a modern OS anyway. It might be worth checking whether you have a lot of programs starting at boot and which kind of background processes are running during normal operation.

It is Windows 10

Background processes usually have Windows processes taking up a huge chunk. Right now Event Log聽taking up 40/50%, sometime WMI host provider or system interrupts.

I know I should rly just to a clean install of Windows to see if that solves but I just dont have the time to do it and then reinstall all my programs and files

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1 minute ago, polymer3 said:

It is Windows 10

Background processes usually have Windows processes taking up a huge chunk. Right now Event Log聽taking up 40/50%, sometime WMI host provider or system interrupts.

I know I should rly just to a clean install of Windows to see if that solves but I just dont have the time to do it and then reinstall all my programs and files

yesterday I finally got rid of McAffe which was taking up large amounts with its live scan

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1 minute ago, polymer3 said:

I just dont have the time to do it and then reinstall all my programs and files

Fair enough. But the levels of CPU usage you are reporting don't seem reasonable at all. Before you go out and buy a completely new laptop you could save some money by just getting this back to it's full potential :)

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1 minute ago, Kon-Tiki said:

Anyway, as long as it works for you just keep it running xD

yep... although sometimes I just want to throw it out the window

2 minutes ago, Kon-Tiki said:

Fair enough. But the levels of CPU usage you are reporting don't seem reasonable at all. Before you go out and buy a completely new laptop you could save some money by just getting this back to it's full potential :)

Any ideas how?

the main culprits seem to be:

Windows Event Log

System Interrupts (which i believe is hardware related b/c all my drives are up to date)

CTF loader

DCOM process

Services and controller app

they all seem to be windows related

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6 minutes ago, polymer3 said:

yesterday I finally got rid of McAffe which was taking up large amounts with its live scan

I'd say a windows reinstall is needed. Is it still the original windows 10 install you had? If so it's probably gotten very cluttered and having issues. Also have you ever cleaned out your laptop from dust?

I'm currently on an dell E7440 with a 4310u so for all intents and purposes the same cpu power and it's buttersmooth after a reinstall from the old install I got it with.

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Just now, jaslion said:

I'd say a windows reinstall is needed. Is it still the original windows 10 install you had? If so it's probably gotten very cluttered and having issues. Also have you ever cleaned out your laptop from dust?

Yeh, its looking like a full reinstall, it is the original copy.

On the dust issue, my fan is actually ramped up all the time. The Dell 5558 has 2 parts to remove I have cleaned out the easier part, but to get to the fan requires keyboard removal, which i am not so confident to do

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2 minutes ago, polymer3 said:

Yeh, its looking like a full reinstall, it is the original copy.

On the dust issue, my fan is actually ramped up all the time. The Dell 5558 has 2 parts to remove I have cleaned out the easier part, but to get to the fan requires keyboard removal, which i am not so confident to do

I'm very positive the fan and heatsink are entirely clogged up then and that is also greatly impacting performance. The keyboard removal is really easy and if you take your time and are gentle nothing will go wrong. That and look at a video.

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7 minutes ago, polymer3 said:

Any ideas how?

Google is your friend here ;) I quickly dug out these two links to give you a starting point. The take home message is that the processes you mentioned are known for being able to cause high CPU usage :/

https://appuals.com/fix-dcom-sever-process-launcher-high-usage/

https://windowsreport.com/ctf-loader-windows-10/

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@jaslion@Kon-Tiki聽did the full reinstall of windows and managed to double and quadruple my pc speed. Only downside is that I lost my Office 2013 key due to some mix up with Dell. But still think it was worth it. Thanks聽

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Glad we could help :) I hope you can your Office key back 馃憤

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