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Ryzen 5 1600 AF won't post on a B450 ASRock

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Hello everyone, my building experience has been a nightmare. I've just recently bought my second pc ever. The total package is:

-Ryzen 5 1600AF

-Asrock B450 Gaming-itx/AC

-Corsair vengeance DDR4

-Corsair SF450 PSU

-Gtx 1660 super

-CM ml120 lite

 

Now the problem is the system is in some kind of bootloop. Fans and lights turn on, but after ~15seconds everything turns off again. After this, it all turns on again for an infinite amount of times. During this, no sounds lights or video outputs. In order to fix this I tried the following:

-Different orientation of RAM

-Different PSU

-reapplying cooler

-Booting with only cpu and cooler attached

-Cleared CMOS

 

Nothing seems to alter the behaviour of the system. Does anyone know what to do? I am clueless at this moment...

 

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1 minute ago, Aardappelmoeheid said:

-Ryzen 5 1600AF

-Asrock B450 Gaming-itx/AC

 

Now the problem is the system is in some kind of bootloop. Fans and lights turn on, but after ~15seconds everything turns off again. After this, it all turns on again for an infinite amount of times. During this, no sounds lights or video outputs.

The problem is likely that the motherboard does not have the right BIOS update to support the AMD CPU.

The 1600AF is newer than B450. 

 

Options:

- Get a loaner CPU from the AMD RMA department (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit)

- Loan a CPU (first gen Ryzen preferably) from someone else

- Contact a nearby store, which might update the BIOS for free/ a small fee (if they have compatible CPU's on the shelves)

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

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Latest BIOS?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, Aardappelmoeheid said:

Cleared CMOS

how? Jumpers, batteries or both?

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12 minutes ago, minibois said:

The problem is likely that the motherboard does not have the right BIOS update to support the AMD CPU.

The 1600AF is newer than B450. 

 

Options:

- Get a loaner CPU from the AMD RMA department (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit)

- Loan a CPU (first gen Ryzen preferably) from someone else

- Contact a nearby store, which might update the BIOS for free/ a small fee (if they have compatible CPU's on the shelves)

I do have a Ryzen 5 1600 in another system. However I have never flashed a bios before, how does this work?

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7 minutes ago, WambleCropped said:

how? Jumpers, batteries or both?

Jumpers, I cannot find a way to access the batteries...

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3 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Ram in slots 2 and 4?

Only two slots of ram in the system. I tried all different configurations and also tested without the ram installed.

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1 minute ago, Aardappelmoeheid said:

I do have a Ryzen 5 1600 in another system. However I have never flashed a bios before, how does this work?

Where to download: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS (seems like 3.40 is the recommended version for your CPU)

How to do this update: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10 (basically have a USB drive formatted to FAT32, place the BIOS file on it and follow the steps to update your BIOS. Of course don't turn your PC off in the process of updating)

 

Do keep in mind these warnings:

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* Please install "AMD all in 1 with VGA driver ver:18.50.16.01_WHQL" or a later version before updating to this BIOS.
** If you updated the BIOS before updating the AMD all in one driver, please refer to the Display recovery SOP to recover your system.
*** User will not able to flash previous BIOS once upgrading to this BIOS version.
**** If the current BIOS version is older than P1.70, please update BIOS to P1.70(PinnaclePI-AM4_1.0.0.6) before updating this version.

Especially with the 4th one, check what BIOS you have (which you can do after you have installed the 1600 non-AF chip).

 

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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5 minutes ago, minibois said:

Where to download: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS (seems like 3.40 is the recommended version for your CPU)

How to do this update: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10 (basically have a USB drive formatted to FAT32, place the BIOS file on it and follow the steps to update your BIOS. Of course don't turn your PC off in the process of updating)

 

Do keep in mind these warnings:

Especially with the 4th one, check what BIOS you have (which you can do after you have installed the 1600 non-AF chip).

 

Cheers man! I will try this tomorrow!

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12 hours ago, minibois said:

Where to download: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS (seems like 3.40 is the recommended version for your CPU)

How to do this update: https://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS10 (basically have a USB drive formatted to FAT32, place the BIOS file on it and follow the steps to update your BIOS. Of course don't turn your PC off in the process of updating)

 

Do keep in mind these warnings:

Especially with the 4th one, check what BIOS you have (which you can do after you have installed the 1600 non-AF chip).

 

I have tried it with a 1600 non-af chip, but it still won't post. Any other ideas?

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49 minutes ago, Aardappelmoeheid said:

I have tried it with a 1600 non-af chip, but it still won't post. Any other ideas?

Just to be clear, you have your monitor connected to your GTX 1660 Super videocard? Your 24 pin ATX, 8 pin EPS and the videocard's cable are all properly plugged in?

Have you tried running the system with a single stick of memory?

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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5 hours ago, minibois said:

Just to be clear, you have your monitor connected to your GTX 1660 Super videocard? Your 24 pin ATX, 8 pin EPS and the videocard's cable are all properly plugged in?

Have you tried running the system with a single stick of memory?

I have tried all of these, however I did not perform all tests with the gpu as output. After testing the ram I used the hdmi on the MB as video output, could that cause the bootloop?

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7 minutes ago, Aardappelmoeheid said:

I have tried all of these, however I did not perform all tests with the gpu as output. After testing the ram I used the hdmi on the MB as video output, could that cause the bootloop?

The processor used (whether it's the 1600AF or non-AF) does not have video out. So it would not post without a GPU, you need to the videocard in the system to post.

Not saying it should bootloop without the GPU, but I'm just saying it can only POST when you have the GPU in the system and have you monitor plugged into there.

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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