5700 xt?

[Hendricks3]

should i buy the msi mech or the xfx raw II and also is a 600w psu enough for these cards?

[Bombastinator]

46 minutes ago, Hendricks3 said:

should i buy the msi mech or the xfx raw II and also is a 600w psu enough for these cards?

My memory is 650w is suggested.  It probably depends a lot on your specific build though. A lot of times those suggestions mean “you can’t possibly need more than X no matter what you do”

[Hendricks3]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

My memory is 650w is suggested.  It probably depends a lot on your specific build though. A lot of times those suggestions mean “you can’t possibly need more than 650w no matter what you do”

i have a r5 3600 16gb o'ced @  3266mhz msi b450i and a 600w psu

[SavageNeo]

3 minutes ago, Hendricks3 said:

i have a r5 3600 16gb o'ced @  3266mhz msi b450i and a 600w psu

your system will consume under 400w with the 5700 xt.

MSI mech is a little better so get that.

[Hendricks3]

Just now, SavageNeo said:

your system will consume under 400w with the 5700 xt.

MSI mech is a little better so get that.

thanks brother greatly appreciate it

[Mister Woof]

I've got the raw ii and it's fine. I'd get whatever is cheaper tbh

[Hendricks3]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

I've got the raw ii and it's fine. I'd get whatever is cheaper tbh

thanks

[Bombastinator]

GPUs are basically all about the cooler. A GPU of one model type is near the same as another. How much cooling and how much noise are perviews of the aftermarket system integrator.

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

GPUs are basically all about the cooler. A GPU of one model type is near the same as another. How much cooling and how much noise are perviews of the aftermarket system integrator.

More or less; the problem with high end cooler models is they end up driving costs so high you're better off stepping up to the next level.

 

I wouldn't buy a near $450-$500 5700xt, I'd get a basic 2070 super instead.

[Bombastinator]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

More or less; the problem with high end cooler models is they end up driving costs so high you're better off stepping up to the next level.

 

I wouldn't buy a near $450-$500 5700xt, I'd get a basic 2070 super instead.

2070S is more or less the same speed as a 5700xt though, depending on what you are doing.  Sometimes a hair slower, sometimes a hair faster.

[Mister Woof]

8 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

2070S is more or less the same speed as a 5700xt though, depending on what you are doing.  Sometimes a hair slower, sometimes a hair faster.

It's generally around 7-9% faster, has NVENC, DLSS, and somewhat useable RTRT.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2015-geforce-rtx-2070-super-vs-radeon-5700-xt/

 

I think the feature set makes it the better choice if the price is close enough.

 

Sub $400 5700xts are amazing value given they're only single digits slower but more than $100 cheaper.

 

You lose some of that value when you go too high in price for AIB coolers.

[Bombastinator]

6 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It's generally around 7-9% faster, has NVENC, DLSS, and somewhat useable RTRT.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2015-geforce-rtx-2070-super-vs-radeon-5700-xt/

 

I think the feature set makes it the better choice if the price is close enough.

The additional features do make a difference if you use them.  Not as sure about the performance stuff.  The reviews I saw had them running pretty much neck and neck.

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

The additional features do make a difference if you use them.  Not as sure about the performance stuff.  The reviews I saw had them running pretty much neck and neck.

This one is recent. Nvidia did some optimizations.

 

But suffice to say, 7-9% performance AND features for only a small amount more are worth it.

 

Cheap 5700xts make perfect sense, expensive models would have been better off buying a 2070 super.

[Bombastinator]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

This one is recent. Nvidia did some optimizations.

 

But suffice to say, 7-9% performance AND features for only a small amount more are worth it.

 

Cheap 5700xts make perfect sense, expensive models would have been better off buying a 2070 super.

On the one I saw AMD had just done an update that had optimizations.  They’re close enough that it’s down to dialing game optimizations.  I’d say that puts them in basically the same class.

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

On the one I saw AMD had just done an update that had optimizations.  They’re close enough that it’s down to dialing game optimizations.  I’d say that puts them in basically the same class.

The 5700xt is closer to the 2070s than the 2060s, and this review was four days ago.

 

Either way, I would choose a basic version of a generally more capable card with more features than a fancy cooler version of the generally slower card with less features if costs were nearly the same.

 

Example:

 

$469

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx5700xt-pgd-8go/p/N82E16814930023

 

Vs

 

$499

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932213?&quicklink=true

 

$30 more, 7-9% more performance, RTRT, NVENC, DLSS....I would pick the $499 2070 super every time.

 

 

Now.....$379 

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-xt-challenger-d-8g-oc/p/N82E16814930020

 

Is a much more compelling argument. $120 less, only single digits slower, and while lacking features, is significantly cheaper. I would choose this one every time.

 

It's a big difference in perspective and relative value.

[Gohardgrandpa]

2 hours ago, Hendricks3 said:

should i buy the msi mech or the xfx raw II and also is a 600w psu enough for these cards?

Depending on your power supply sure it could be enough. I run a 3600x, Corsair Aio, pulse 5700xt, 3 sata ssd’s and 1 7200rpm sata hard drive on a Corsair rmx550 watt psu just fine. 

[Xkillerpn]

5700xts always get a 3 fan version, any version but not asus.

 

you will be fine with a 650w psu gold rated.

[YoIsaza]

1 minute ago, Xkillerpn said:

5700xts always get a 3 fan version, any version but not asus.

 

you will be fine with a 650w psu gold rated.

Hi,

Why not ASUS? I got the ROG Strix... And I'm having some issues, would like to know if it match the reaosn why you don't recommend it

[Xkillerpn]

4 hours ago, YoIsaza said:

Hi,

Why not ASUS? I got the ROG Strix... And I'm having some issues, would like to know if it match the reaosn why you don't recommend it

They have huge problems with cooling the vram and the strix has a gap to the core.

 

Asus did a very bad job with the AMD gpus. even the vega 64 strix had issues with vrm  cooling.

 

Reusing coolers from nvidia ends in this.

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, MarfP said:

 

That 5700 XT at 379$ is a steal! I dont even know how nvidia still sells their 2060 S..

I do agree.  $450 is way overpriced for a 5700xt especially considering they were $350 when they came out.  

[BTGbullseye]

13 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I do agree.  $450 is way overpriced for a 5700xt especially considering they were $350 when they came out.  

They were $400 at launch, not $350. $350 was for the non-XT.

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

They were $400 at launch, not $350. $350 was for the non-XT.

Depends on where you were.  I got a 5700xt for 312 on Black Friday sale

[GreyestGoat]

My GPU is the high end of the 5700-XT's and was worth every penny.

 

Currency does not convert straight in any country because we pay VAT and taxes, so £415 is $306

[BTGbullseye]

18 hours ago, GreyestGoat said:

My GPU is the high end of the 5700-XT's and was worth every penny.

 

Currency does not convert straight in any country because we pay VAT and taxes, so £415 is $306

Since when was GBP worth less than USD? The USA has to pay taxes too.