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Creating Dad a new PC

So my dad has had a iMac tha'ts about 12 years old and a all-in-one desktop PC that's about 10 years old. He has many movies on the iMac and photos, also many different records to keep. I've been telling him over and over again to upgrade and he finally caved, but he gave me some things that he wants to be able to do. 

- Transfer all the photos and videos over to access on a TV in the other room. 

- Have enough storage to hold files that he can easily and quickly access.

- Be able to back up everything to external just in case. 

I have everything picked out at a reasonable cost. He gave me the limit to spend between 2250-3000 for everything including the monitors. I'm having trouble deciding whether to get him 27" curved or just regular monitors. 

 

If there is any ideas to maybe make this better or change it up? I'm only recently getting used to building PC's and don't really wanna get him something that wouldn't be good for the things that he needs.

 

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For the build:

  • MSI X570 boards are trash, get something else. Gigabyte is better.
  • Don't bother buying thermal compound, the H7 comes with some.
  • You can probably get a board with built in WiFi.
  • There's probably a newer Nvidia card that gets better performance at the same price. Have you checked to see how the 1660 Super/1650 performs in comparison?

You also didn't really state what he uses the computer for, so any advice we can give is pointless until you do.

Current PC:

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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You don't really need that cooler or the thermal paste -- the 3600 comes with a good-enough cooler and pre-applied thermal paste.

You can easily step down to a B450 motherboard like the MSI B450 A-Pro MAX which is guaranteed to work with 3rd gen out of the box, and is much cheaper. (you could also a buy a motherboard with built-in AC wifi, so no need for a wifi card)

You could probably find a corsair CX550M for much cheaper, and it's a similar quality PSU

If he's not gaming, the RX 570 is overkill. You could get by with any random $50 GPU -- But it's not a bad choice if you have the budget and might use the PC for GPU-accelerated work or gaming.

 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

For the build:

  • MSI X570 boards are trash, get something else. Gigabyte is better.
  • Don't bother buying thermal compound, the H7 comes with some.
  • You can probably get a board with built in WiFi.
  • There's probably a newer Nvidia card that gets better performance at the same price. Have you checked to see how the 1660 Super/1650 performs in comparison?

You also didn't really state what he uses the computer for, so any advice we can give is pointless until you do.

 

accessing big files of folders without a hitch

-movies, photos, files, 

 

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1 minute ago, UnceasingBridge said:

accessing big files of folders without a hitch

-movies, photos, files,

Ok, so why don't you just get a 1600AF instead? Then drop down to a B450 motherboard, and use the stock cooler with something like a GTX 1650.

I get that you want to give him something good, but realistically you're just wasting his money on things he doesn't need.

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

You don't really need that cooler or the thermal paste -- the 3600 comes with a good-enough cooler and pre-applied thermal paste.

You can easily step down to a B450 motherboard like the MSI B450 A-Pro MAX which is guaranteed to work with 3rd gen out of the box, and is much cheaper. (you could also a buy a motherboard with built-in AC wifi, so no need for a wifi card)

You could probably find a corsair CX550M for much cheaper, and it's a similar quality PSU

If he's not gaming, the RX 570 is overkill. You could get by with any random $50 GPU -- But it's not a bad choice if you have the budget and might use the PC for GPU-accelerated work or gaming.

 

I wanted him to have the option of two HDMI's and DPI's for the GPU. 

I'll look for the new motherboard as well a PSU,

 

thanks!

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Just now, dizmo said:

Ok, so why don't you just get a 1600AF instead? Then drop down to a B450 motherboard, and use the stock cooler with something like a GTX 1650.

I get that you want to give him something good, but realistically you're just wasting his money on things he doesn't need.

Thank you, that's why I wanted to see what someone else would think about it before I go on. I'll look into those parts.

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Honestly, if he's not gaming or anything and already used to using macOS, you could get him an iMac. Get either the build I have listed, a Mac Mini, or a 5k iMac. I'd probably get the next 5k iMac when it comes out because the display is what matters most to the average person, and it's fast enough.

 

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Something like this would be better:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($173.85 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($127.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8100 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Logitech Z323 30 W 2.1 Channel Speakers  ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1077.72

 

Cheaper, but you get an NVME drive so it'll be faster. I get the feeling you can get a cheaper CPU, like an APU with 4 cores and 8 threads, but this would likely be more future resistant.

 

5 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Errr no. No it's really not. You didn't bother to look at his use case at all.

Current PC:

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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1 minute ago, Daniel Z. said:

Honestly, if he's not gaming or anything and already used to using macOS, you could get him an iMac. Get either the build I have listed, a Mac Mini, or a 5k iMac. I'd probably get the next 5k iMac when it comes out because the display is what matters most to the average person, and it's fast enough.

 

How are you running 3 monitors off this?

Current PC:

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

How are you running 3 monitors off this?

Right I meant to remove one. OP could either have just 2 or get a GPU.

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If you wanted to try building a hackintosh for him, here's a very helpful guide on how to do it using AMD CPU. @UnceasingBridge

 

 

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55 minutes ago, UnceasingBridge said:

- Transfer all the photos and videos over to access on a TV in the other room. 

- Have enough storage to hold files that he can easily and quickly access.

- Be able to back up everything to external just in case. 

 

If there is any ideas to maybe make this better or change it up? I'm only recently getting used to building PC's and don't really wanna get him something that wouldn't be good for the things that he needs.

 

if he is using the pc mainly for storage i would swap the 2tb ssd for a 250 or 500gb nvme and then ask him how much storage he needs and buy HDD's and put them in either raid 1 or raid 0 (depending on how many HDD's there are) and then that removes the need for an external backup as the backup will be done internally 

 

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($119.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($68.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 10 600 W 80+ Silver Certified ATX Power Supply  ($74.90 @ B&H) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($18.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer T4E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $680.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 23:31 EDT-0400

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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2 hours ago, dizmo said:

Something like this would be better:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($173.85 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($127.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8100 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Logitech Z323 30 W 2.1 Channel Speakers  ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1077.72

 

Cheaper, but you get an NVME drive so it'll be faster. I get the feeling you can get a cheaper CPU, like an APU with 4 cores and 8 threads, but this would likely be more future resistant.

 

Errr no. No it's really not. You didn't bother to look at his use case at all.

Yeah lol, I didn't see that part, still was cheaper though haha!

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2 hours ago, WickedStarfish said:

if he is using the pc mainly for storage i would swap the 2tb ssd for a 250 or 500gb nvme and then ask him how much storage he needs and buy HDD's and put them in either raid 1 or raid 0 (depending on how many HDD's there are) and then that removes the need for an external backup as the backup will be done internally 

 

 

Uhhhh no. RAID is not a back up.

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39 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Uhhhh no. RAID is not a back up.

RAID or No RAID, that is the Question? Part 1 ...

the whole idea of a backup is if the drive fails you dont lose the information because you have a copy on it somewhere else (you know like a mirrored drive)

RAID 0 vs RAID 1 - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

by raid 0 i mean using both raid 0 and 1 (like shown above)

 

 

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Just now, WickedStarfish said:

the whole idea of a backup is if the drive fails you dont lose the information because you have a copy on it somewhere else (you know like a mirrored drive)

 

by raid 0 i mean using both raid 0 and 1 (like shown above)

I'm aware of what RAID is, and what it does. How do you not know it's not a viable back up strategy?

Perhaps you should do some reading:

https://blog.macrium.com/raid-is-not-backup-abaf74974fea

https://www.2brightsparks.com/resources/articles/RAID-is-not-a-backup-solution.html

https://serverfault.com/questions/2888/why-is-raid-not-a-backup

https://blog.open-e.com/why-raid-is-not-a-backup/

http://www.petemarovichimages.com/2013/11/24/never-use-a-raid-as-your-backup-system/

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25 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Most issues are with a single drive malfunction, storage spaces solves that issue. Is it perfect? No, but it's a relatively painless way to prevent most data loss

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3 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

Most issues are with a single drive malfunction, storage spaces solves that issue. Is it perfect? No, but it's a relatively painless way to prevent most data loss

That doesn't change the fact that it's not an appropriate back up solution. You could have any number of things like motherboard failure, PSU failure, fire, etc that would make the back up useless. When you're talking about quadrupling the cost of the storage set up, it's worth noting.

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