Why is this so expensive?

[Probenja]

I have always been wondering why Apple's thunderbolt dispaly is so expensive, i mean in my country you can buy 2 ASUS PB298Q 29" IPS ultrawide monitors for the price of one thunderbolt display. I mean i guess the whole reason of the price is the thunderbolt connection but is it worth the price and is there a difference compared to something like display port?

 

 

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53

[Paralectic]

It's Apple, they make products for fashion, same as Beats By Dre etc and in the end too expensive for what you'll get.

[simtransporter]

I don't know a whole lot about apple products so take this with a grain of salt, but I would assume the only difference between thunderbolt and displayport as far as connecting displays are concerned is that thunderbolt allows you to daisy-chain to other devices.

[Cryptonite]

I have always been wondering why Apple's thunderbolt dispaly is so expensive, i mean in my country you can buy 2 ASUS PB298Q 29" IPS ultrawide monitors for the price of one thunderbolt display. I mean i guess the whole reason of the price is the thunderbolt connection but is it worth the price and is there a difference compared to something like display port?

 

 

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53

because it's apple.

[Probenja]

No, but i am serious, something like a macbook air is quite well priced, the iPad while is a little more expensive than the competitors but IMO it is worth it and that is about it, Apple has some competitive products but the price of this display its just over the top. And the worst part is that so many people that i have seen in youtube have it + a mac.

[Guest]

Don't they use colour grade level panels?

[Wyre]

 

You are paying the apple tax... nothing more. There are better / faster / less expensive devices out there. You just have to look.

[nsyedhasan]

It's Apple, they make products for fashion, same as Beats By Dre etc and in the end too expensive for what you'll get.

But the monitors are amazing

[Paralectic]

But the monitors are amazing

The industrial design is what I like tho, from Apple: What no other company can get close to;

But specification wise, and price/performance ratio wise they aren't any good. 

But yeah, teenage girls need Macbooks and iPhones ;-)

[Stonep11]

But the monitors are amazing

Ehh, I'll stick with my u3011 #PCmasterrace

[Glenwing]

I don't know a whole lot about apple products so take this with a grain of salt, but I would assume the only difference between thunderbolt and displayport as far as connecting displays are concerned is that thunderbolt allows you to daisy-chain to other devices.

 

DisplayPort can daisy chain too.  In fact that's where Thunderbolt gets its own daisy-chaining capabilities from.

[minimalist]

I have always been wondering why Apple's thunderbolt dispaly is so expensive, i mean in my country you can buy 2 ASUS PB298Q 29" IPS ultrawide monitors for the price of one thunderbolt display. I mean i guess the whole reason of the price is the thunderbolt connection but is it worth the price and is there a difference compared to something like display port?

 

 

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53

 

Those Asus monitors are 1080 so yeah.  The Apple monitor is 1440.  You're paying about $200 more probably for the design. 

[simtransporter]

DisplayPort can daisy chain too.  In fact that's where Thunderbolt gets its own daisy-chaining capabilities from.

Yes displayport can indeed daisy chain, but what I meant to say was that it can't daisy chain to thunderbolt devices. So I guess an advantage of thunderbolt displays is that they can daisy chain to other thunderbolt devices that are not necessarily displays.

[canada2005]

Apple has to pay for their space stations some how.

[Lyons]

 

You are paying the apple tax... nothing more. There are better / faster / less expensive devices out there. You just have to look.

It's Apple, they make products for fashion, same as Beats By Dre etc and in the end too expensive for what you'll get.

I have always been wondering why Apple's thunderbolt dispaly is so expensive, i mean in my country you can buy 2 ASUS PB298Q 29" IPS ultrawide monitors for the price of one thunderbolt display. I mean i guess the whole reason of the price is the thunderbolt connection but is it worth the price and is there a difference compared to something like display port? 

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53

It has decent speakers, a microphone, HD webcam, multiple Thunderbolt ports, USB hub, Ethernet port, passthrough power for Macbooks, aluminium housing and stand, and glass front. It's basically a very high quality monitor WITH a docking station built in. All this stuff costs much more money to produce than say, a Dell U2713HM or any other 1440p monitor offer hardly any of these features. Learn the facts first!

[minimalist]

It has decent speakers, a microphone, HD webcam, multiple Thunderbolt ports, USB hub, Ethernet port, passthrough power for Macbooks, aluminium housing and stand, and glass front. It's basically a very high quality monitor WITH a docking station built in. All this stuff costs much more money to produce than say, a Dell U2713HM or any other 1440p monitor offer hardly any of these features. Learn the facts first!

 

No one will ever do that because....Apple.  They just hate.

[Wyre]

It has decent speakers, a microphone, HD webcam, multiple Thunderbolt ports, USB hub, Ethernet port, passthrough power for Macbooks, aluminium housing and stand, and glass front. It's basically a very high quality monitor WITH a docking station built in. All this stuff costs much more money to produce than say, a Dell U2713HM or any other 1440p monitor offer hardly any of these features. Learn the facts first!

 

Or you can get a higher resolution touchscreen gorilla glassed, faster, better built, EPEAT certified ultra from Dell for several hundred less... BTW that includes a 5 year warranty with accidental damage protection (oops I dropped my laptop into the bathtub, dont worry sir... here is your new laptop).

 

 

The industrial design is what I like tho, from Apple: What no other company can get close to;

But specification wise, and price/performance ratio wise they aren't any good. 

But yeah, teenage girls need Macbooks and iPhones ;-)

 

 

Dell 7000 series laptops....

[Lyons]

Or you can get a higher resolution touchscreen gorilla glassed, faster, better built, EPEAT certified ultra from Dell for several hundred less... BTW that includes a 5 year warranty with accidental damage protection (oops I dropped my laptop into the bathtub, dont worry sir... here is your new laptop).

What? I was specifically talking about the Thunderbolt display.

[Wyre]

Same samsung PLS monitor that you can get under other name brands for 310 dollars.

 

Although they do not have the thunderbolt controller and are there for overclockable to 120Hz.

 

 

But whatever floats your boat. If the aesthetics of the mac / apple stuff is worth that much to you.... more power to you. May you enjoy your very expensive pretty device. Personally speaking I would rather have the same function or greater for half the price.

[Lyons]

Same samsung PLS monitor that you can get under other name brands for 310 dollars.

 

Although they do not have the thunderbolt controller and are there for overclockable to 120Hz.

 

 

But whatever floats your boat. If the aesthetics of the mac / apple stuff is worth that much to you.... more power to you. May you enjoy your very expensive pretty device. Personally speaking I would rather have the same function or greater for half the price.

Sorry, but just because have no use for the features that a product offers does not automatically make them useless, nor does it make it overpriced; you could have gone without reading my first response and still come up with an equal amount of irrelevance. I personally have a Dell U2713HM, which I bought for $550au from Dell, a perfect middleground. It has most of the features of a Thunderbolt display that are usable to me, but also a lot of features that those shitty eBay Korean monitors don't: 4x USB3.0 hub, multi-axis adjustable stand, factory professional colour calibration, a fantastic 3 year on-site free replacement warranty, multiple display inputs (including Displayport), good build quality and a small bezel.

Oh, and 120Hz? Enjoy your limited lifetime. IPS/PLS/etc. can't even switch that quickly with 100% functionality. Tout your knock-off device to someone else.

I don't understand why people don't value quality, it drives the market down.

[Wyre]

Sorry, but just because have no use for the features that a product offers does not automatically make them useless, nor does it make it overpriced; you could have gone without reading my first response and still come up with an equal amount of irrelevance. I personally have a Dell U2713HM, which I bought for $550au from Dell, a perfect middleground. It has most of the features of a Thunderbolt display that are usable to me, but also a lot of features that those shitty eBay Korean monitors don't: 4x USB3.0 hub, multi-axis adjustable stand, factory professional colour calibration, a fantastic 3 year on-site free replacement warranty, multiple display inputs (including Displayport), good build quality and a small bezel.

Oh, and 120Hz? Enjoy your limited lifetime. IPS/PLS/etc. can't even switch that quickly with 100% functionality. Tout your knock-off device to someone else.

I don't understand why people don't value quality, it drives the market down.

 

I never once said anything about your Dell monitor, nor did I mention that features that I had no person use for made the feature itself useless. I have three 1080p IPS panels on my desk, all of them are Dell. I was speaking of the thunderbolt display from Apple. They use the exact same 27" panel. I am willing to forgive the lack of a USB hub as I do not need one. I am willing to overlook the lack of a 5 way adjustable stand as I dont really need that either (although the monitor I have in mind does have a VESA mount - so installing a $50 stand isnt too far fetched). I have found that dual-link DVI works perfectly and while it doesnt 'daisy chain' like display port etc etc etc - it does function perfectly. 120Hz is quite possible, although most of the panels I have seen work fine at 96Hz. They are not exactly knock-off either. They use a Samsung panel and controller. To be quite frank I would have chosen the Dell panel over the Apple panel... The price is just too much for what it is. And if a 4x USB 3.0 hub is holding you back - A little double sided tape and a 15 dollar hub can be added to the back of the panel. 

 

I read your entire post and I understood where you were coming from. Apparently (judging by the tone of your response) I have upset you somehow, or you have not read my response. It is also quite possible that I was not clear enough in my response. For that I apologize.

[Lyons]

I never once said anything about your Dell monitor, nor did I mention that features that I had no person use for made the feature itself useless. I have three 1080p IPS panels on my desk, all of them are Dell. I was speaking of the thunderbolt display from Apple. They use the exact same 27" panel. I am willing to forgive the lack of a USB hub as I do not need one. I am willing to overlook the lack of a 5 way adjustable stand as I dont really need that either (although the monitor I have in mind does have a VESA mount - so installing a $50 stand isnt too far fetched). I have found that dual-link DVI works perfectly and while it doesnt 'daisy chain' like display port etc etc etc - it does function perfectly. 120Hz is quite possible, although most of the panels I have seen work fine at 96Hz. They are not exactly knock-off either. They use a Samsung panel and controller. To be quite frank I would have chosen the Dell panel over the Apple panel... The price is just too much for what it is. And if a 4x USB 3.0 hub is holding you back - A little double sided tape and a 15 dollar hub can be added to the back of the panel. 

 

I read your entire post and I understood where you were coming from. Apparently (judging by the tone of your response) I have upset you somehow, or you have not read my response. It is also quite possible that I was not clear enough in my response. For that I apologize.

 

You may not have meant the stuff you seemingly implied, but you did just that - imply a whoooole lot of points. I'm not upset, and I don't care what you use. Facts are facts, and no one can ignore them and form an opinion around that very ignorance. The thing that DOES upset me are the ill-informed, blind, bigoted, anti-Apple fallacies that literally make no sense, and of which are stated constantly on this forum. It's embarrassing for us as the so called 'PC master race'.

[minimalist]

Same samsung PLS monitor that you can get under other name brands for 310 dollars.

 

Although they do not have the thunderbolt controller and are there for overclockable to 120Hz.

 

 

But whatever floats your boat. If the aesthetics of the mac / apple stuff is worth that much to you.... more power to you. May you enjoy your very expensive pretty device. Personally speaking I would rather have the same function or greater for half the price.

 

Where are these same monitors that are 1440p and 310 dollars?  Are they of the same quality?  Something tells me no.