Help with new build

[CtrlAltDie]

Getting back into the swing of things, so I drug my PC out of the closet after a few years and it hasent stood up to time very well. Currently has an fx-8320 black edition on a GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P,with 8gb of hyperx Blu ram, a  pny gtx 650ti, and a Corsair cx 600 psu. As I am a AMD fan boy id prefer to go the ryzen route and want to try to stay under 1,000. Mostly will be used for gaming and media. No desire to stream lol. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[boey]

which country?

[CtrlAltDie]

My apologies, im in the U.S

[i_build_nanosuits]

11 minutes ago, CtrlAltDie said:

Getting back into the swing of things, so I drug my PC out of the closet and it hasent stood up to time very well. Currently has an fx-8320 black edition on a GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P,with 8gb of hyperx Blu ram, a  pny gtx 650ti, and a Corsair cx 600 psu. As I am a AMD fan boy id prefer to go the ryzen route and want to try to stay under 1,000. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

suggestion 1: sell your machine on craigslist for like...120$ to get money toward something, or exactly this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3400 Memory  ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA SU635 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  ($496.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1100.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:19 EDT-0400

[CtrlAltDie]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

suggestion 1: sell your machine on craigslist for like...120$ to get money toward something, or exactly this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  ($496.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1081.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:15 EDT-0400

Thank you. How big of a leap is the performance of the 2070 super over the 2060 ko? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, CtrlAltDie said:

Thank you. How big of a leap is the performance of the 2070 super over the 2060 ko? 

i'd say around 12 to 18% depending on the game...when GPU limited.

[CtrlAltDie]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

i'd say around 12 to 18% depending on the game...when GPU limited.

Awesome, thank you again.

[kyn1972]

I would swap the 1600 out for the 2600 which newegg has a sale on for 124.99 currently but otherwise a very good build suggestion up above.

[thathalfdeaddude]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC III Ultra Video Card  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1000.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:23 EDT-0400

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, kyn1972 said:

I would swap the 1600 out for the 2600 which newegg has a sale on for 124.99 currently but otherwise a very good build suggestion up above.

the 1600 AF is the same as the 2600...just cheaper...same 14nm chip.

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 hours ago, NarukeUzuha said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC III Ultra Video Card  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1000.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:23 EDT-0400

have to cut down too much to fit the 3600 in, now you have worse motherboard, worse RAM which is also out of stock at this price, worse SSD (faster but half the size), worse case and worse PSU. And most important much worse video card.

For a 15% faster CPU and a 2tb hard disk drive. not worth the cut

Worst case he upgrade to a newer ryzen cpu in a year with 8 or 10 core the tomahawk board will take it.

[kyn1972]

15 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

the 1600 AF is the same as the 2600...just cheaper...same 14nm chip.

Odd, neweggs list the 2600  as a 12nm. Guess they typoed but then again they do have thousands of items for sale so it probably happens fairly often.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, kyn1972 said:

Odd, neweggs list the 2600  as a 12nm. Guess they typoed but then again they do have thousands of items for sale so it probably fairly often.

humm not sure then but i know for a fact the AF is faster than the original 1600 and in testing was the same as the 2600 if running the same clocks (ship 200 mhz slower base clock i think) but i would tune it to 4.0ghz and call it a day anyways.

[boey]

2 minutes ago, kyn1972 said:

Odd, neweggs list the 2600  as a 12nm. Guess they typoed but then again they do have thousands of items for sale so it probably happens fairly often.

if i'm not wrong zen was on 14nm, zen+ on 12.

 

1600af and 2600 should be both on 12nm

[732]

13 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3400 Memory  ($83.99 @ Newegg)
 

I've seen Ripjaws V 3600 C16 for $75-$80. Faster memory for less

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 minutes ago, kyn1972 said:

Odd, neweggs list the 2600  as a 12nm. Guess they typoed but then again they do have thousands of items for sale so it probably happens fairly often.

they are both 12nm. the listing on pcpartpicker is what confused me.

the thing is, i picked the Gen 1 ryzen, defenetly swap it for the 2600 then:

 

 

[boey]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

humm not sure then but i know for a fact the AF is faster than the original 1600 and in testing was the same as the 2600 if running the same clocks (ship 200 mhz slower base clock i think) but i would tune it to 4.0ghz and call it a day anyways.

and tighten memory timings. super important for ryzen, and there's a neat tutorial here. no trial&error, and is basically idiot proof

 

[732]

Just now, 732 said:

I've seen Ripjaws V 3600 C16 for $75-$80. Faster memory for less

Never mind, one dollar more lol

[i_build_nanosuits]

Fixed everything: better memory, better CPU, one less hamburger in your pockets:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA SU635 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  ($496.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1101.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:31 EDT-0400

[Letgomyleghoe]

 

@732 what the fuck is your sig

 

but going with a 1600af and a 5700xt is a good way to stay all amd 

[kyn1972]

15 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

they are both 12nm. the listing on pcpartpicker is what confused me.

the thing is, i picked the Gen 1 ryzen, defenetly swap it for the 2600 then:

 

 

Ahh, I wouldnt sweat it as considering how fast AMD is releasing their new chips its easy to get confused though if someone was to sweat over AMD it might be Intel.

[732]

1 minute ago, scuff gang said:

 

@732 what the fuck is your sig

 

but going with a 1600af and a 5700xt is a good way to stay all amd 

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[thathalfdeaddude]

25 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

have to cut down too much to fit the 3600 in, now you have worse motherboard, worse RAM which is also out of stock at this price, worse SSD (faster but half the size), worse case and worse PSU. And most important much worse video card.

For a 15% faster CPU and a 2tb hard disk drive. not worth the cut

Worst case he upgrade to a newer ryzen cpu in a year with 8 or 10 core the tomahawk board will take it but not the gaming plus.

I don't really see much of a difference between the Gaming Plus and the Tomahawk except for Type-C and some heatsink. Also the case and psu are good enough. 

Updated List R5 3600

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1094.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:50 EDT-0400

[KaitouX]

27 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Worst case he upgrade to a newer ryzen cpu in a year with 8 or 10 core the tomahawk board will take it but not the gaming plus.

Both got the same VRMs.

 

26 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Fixed everything: better memory, better CPU, one less hamburger in your pockets:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA SU635 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  ($496.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1101.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 00:31 EDT-0400

That PSU is way too expensive, you can get similar quality for less or better quality for the same price, and 650W isn't really necessary in this build.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

9 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Both got the same VRMs.

 

That PSU is way too expensive, you can get similar quality for less or better quality for the same price, and 650W isn't really necessary in this build.

Also, r.e. the PSU, there don't seem to be any reviews RN and the policy is generally to assume it's a bomb until proven otherwise. So you're gonna want something like a Seasonic Focus+ Gold or similar