Need help choosing a graphics card

[Bmh20]

Hello all, I am about to start building my first pc and need help choosing a graphics card. I am going to be getting the ryzen 7 3700x cpu. I was looking at the Asus GeForce gtx 1660 super. I wanted to know is this would be a good fit or do I need to choose a different card? I appreciate any help I can get

[Applefreak]

The GTX 1660 Super will do just fine but you could go as high as a RTX 2080 Ti if you like. You have a top notch CPU there so no worries.

[Fasauceome]

budget? Country?

[Bmh20]

I am not trying to break my bank. I would like it to be under 500 and United States 

[Bmh20]

17 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

budget? Country?

I am not trying to break my bank. I would like it to be under 500 and United States 

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Bmh20 said:

I am not trying to break my bank. I would like it to be under 500 and United States 

RTX 2070 super fits that budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd

 

The 5700 XT comes close for a lot less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Got a decent power supply for your system?

[MrBrightSyde]

Okay so I have a few questions for you before I can recommend anything.

1. What is the purpose for your PC? Gaming or Work? If gaming, what resolution and refresh rate?

2. Do you have a list of the specs you are thinking about buying? If not, go to pcpartpicker and add the parts you are thinking about. Once you do that, share the link (the one right above the list, not the link in the address bar).

3. If the PC is for gaming, why not a 3600 with a better GPU?

 

 

[Bmh20]

Hey guys I really appreciate all the help with this. This is what I am looking at 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$296.47 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card	$249.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$106.99 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1145.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 16:41 EDT-0400

 

[Bmh20]

Also This is for gaming 

[Bmh20]

2 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Okay so I have a few questions for you before I can recommend anything.

1. What is the purpose for your PC? Gaming or Work? If gaming, what resolution and refresh rate?

2. Do you have a list of the specs you are thinking about buying? If not, go to pcpartpicker and add the parts you are thinking about. Once you do that, share the link (the one right above the list, not the link in the address bar).

3. If the PC is for gaming, why not a 3600 with a better GPU?

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$296.47 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card	$249.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$106.99 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1145.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 16:55 EDT-0400

gaming and I do not know would that be better for me

[MrBrightSyde]

17 minutes ago, Bmh20 said:

gaming and I do not know would that be better for me

So I can see a few ways to save money and/or get better performance, if you haven't bought anything yet.

1. You could change the SSD to a MX500 for only $2 more but it's not really required. Just a suggestion.

2. If you are gaming, it would be better to go with a 3600 and something like a 5700 XT, unless you want to avoid driver issues, then a 2060 Super would work.

3. A 750w PSU is overkill for your system. 550w is better, and the list shows the PSU out of stock, but the price was $130. That price is too high when the 750w RM 2019 ($120) and the 750w Phanteks AMP ($115) are both cheaper. And for 550w PSU, the AMP and RMx (2018) are about $100.

 

And here's a couple more questions since I see your list

1. Are you using a 1080p, 1440p, or 4k monitor? And what refresh rate? The build and budget you are going for is closer to a 1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz build.

2. Are you dead set on that case, or is it fine if I find one with similar color scheme?

3. Are you going to overclock the CPU at all?

4. Why X570? Would a B450 board be fine?

5. What is your max budget before tax? Looking at your list, it's about $1300 before tax, but I'd liked to know.

[Bmh20]

29 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

So I can see a few ways to save money and/or get better performance, if you haven't bought anything yet.

1. You could change the SSD to a MX500 for only $2 more but it's not really required. Just a suggestion.

2. If you are gaming, it would be better to go with a 3600 and something like a 5700 XT, unless you want to avoid driver issues, then a 2060 Super would work.

3. A 750w PSU is overkill for your system. 550w is better, and the list shows the PSU out of stock, but the price was $130. That price is too high when the 750w RM 2019 ($120) and the 750w Phanteks AMP ($115) are both cheaper. And for 550w PSU, the AMP and RMx (2018) are about $100.

 

And here's a couple more questions since I see your list

1. Are you using a 1080p, 1440p, or 4k monitor? And what refresh rate? The build and budget you are going for is closer to a 1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz build.

2. Are you dead set on that case, or is it fine if I find one with similar color scheme?

3. Are you going to overclock the CPU at all?

4. Why X570? Would a B450 board be fine?

5. What is your max budget before tax? Looking at your list, it's about $1300 before tax, but I'd liked to know.

I have not picked a monitor yet. I am not so concerned about that right now. I really like this case since I get the 3 extra fans and the rgb I get with the top light and the fans that light up but I would be open to open to other options. For my mother board I just need something that has WiFi built in because I will not be able to hook it up with an ethernet cable. My budget is between 1200-1400

[Bmh20]

4 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

RTX 2070 super fits that budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd

 

The 5700 XT comes close for a lot less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Got a decent power supply for your system?

 

4 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

RTX 2070 super fits that budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd

 

The 5700 XT comes close for a lot less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Got a decent power supply for your system?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$296.47 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card	$249.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$106.99 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1145.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 18:23 EDT-0400

 

[MrBrightSyde]

28 minutes ago, Bmh20 said:

I have not picked a monitor yet. I am not so concerned about that right now. I really like this case since I get the 3 extra fans and the rgb I get with the top light and the fans that light up but I would be open to open to other options. For my mother board I just need something that has WiFi built in because I will not be able to hook it up with an ethernet cable. My budget is between 1200-1400

Perfect, thank you for answering some of the major questions. Also, you didn't answer whether you are going to overclock the CPU or not, so I left the CPU cooler as the stock cooler.

 

So I made a list, but you do not have to completely follow it. These are just my suggestions and you are feel to change any aspect of it as you please.

 

Quick list of things I changed:

CPU: Since you are gaming, the price to performance is a lot better with the 3600. Instead of spending $100-125 for about 10-15 fps more, it would be wiser to spend that on the graphics card

GPU: Best price to performance card for mid to high-end gaming. Has had driver issues but most have been fixed.  Secondary recommendation would be a 2060 Super if you don't want the chance to have to deal with driver issues but you are sacrificing performance to do so.

Case: Something to compare to since it's the same price. Easy to build in, has good airflow. The stock configuration of the fans is better than the H510 Elite, but they both suffer airflow losses due to their front panel, though not enough to worry about.

SSD: Recommended since it's slightly better than the WD Blue 3D for only $2 more.

PSU: A+ Tier on PSU tier list and runs quietly. Lowered the wattage to 650w since you don't need it (and I couldn't find a 550w version of it). Secondary suggestion would be a 550w Corsair RMx or 550w Phanteks AMP for around $100 if you want to save $10 more.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($158.98 @ B&H)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair iCUE 465X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($106.99 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1245.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 18:54 EDT-0400

[funkmon]

55 minutes ago, Bmh20 said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$296.47 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card	$249.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$106.99 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1145.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 18:23 EDT-0400

 

It looks like a future proofing type of system. That is building now so it'll be better in the future for future upgrades. Like, for example, nothing needs the capabilities of an X570 right now, and you'll do fine with a B450. You're also going to have significantly more processing power than graphics power. You could put a 2080 Ti in that thing and not bottleneck it.

 

If your goal is to have solid gaming right now, and then upgrade it as time goes on, you have a great part list. If your goal is to just have the best possible gaming experience right now, then I'd get a significantly worse and cheaper power supply, a 3600, a B450 mobo, some slightly faster RAM, and a 2070 Super or 2060 Super.

[Bmh20]

10 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Perfect, thank you for answering some of the major questions. Also, you didn't answer whether you are going to overclock the CPU or not, so I left the CPU cooler as the stock cooler.

 

So I made a list, but you do not have to completely follow it. These are just my suggestions and you are feel to change any aspect of it as you please.

 

Quick list of things I changed:

CPU: Since you are gaming, the price to performance is a lot better with the 3600. Instead of spending $100-125 for about 10-15 fps more, it would be wiser to spend that on the graphics card

GPU: Best price to performance card for mid to high-end gaming. Has had driver issues but most have been fixed.  Secondary recommendation would be a 2060 Super if you don't want the chance to have to deal with driver issues but you are sacrificing performance to do so.

Case: Something to compare to since it's the same price. Easy to build in, has good airflow. The stock configuration of the fans is better than the H510 Elite, but they both suffer airflow losses due to their front panel, though not enough to worry about.

SSD: Recommended since it's slightly better than the WD Blue 3D for only $2 more.

PSU: A+ Tier on PSU tier list and runs quietly. Lowered the wattage to 650w since you don't need it (and I couldn't find a 550w version of it). Secondary suggestion would be a 550w Corsair RMx or 550w Phanteks AMP for around $100 if you want to save $10 more.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($158.98 @ B&H)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair iCUE 465X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($106.99 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1245.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 18:54 EDT-0400

Thank you so much for all the help you have given me! It has helped out so much!

[Ukyo82]

6 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

RTX 2070 super fits that budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd

 

The 5700 XT comes close for a lot less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Got a decent power supply for your system?

Best advice ever for this kind of processor!

[Gohardgrandpa]

Who buys a windows 10 key for $107? I agree with the rest of the build but get a key off ebay for $10 and call it a day

[Bmh20]

1 hour ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Perfect, thank you for answering some of the major questions. Also, you didn't answer whether you are going to overclock the CPU or not, so I left the CPU cooler as the stock cooler.

 

So I made a list, but you do not have to completely follow it. These are just my suggestions and you are feel to change any aspect of it as you please.

 

Quick list of things I changed:

CPU: Since you are gaming, the price to performance is a lot better with the 3600. Instead of spending $100-125 for about 10-15 fps more, it would be wiser to spend that on the graphics card

GPU: Best price to performance card for mid to high-end gaming. Has had driver issues but most have been fixed.  Secondary recommendation would be a 2060 Super if you don't want the chance to have to deal with driver issues but you are sacrificing performance to do so.

Case: Something to compare to since it's the same price. Easy to build in, has good airflow. The stock configuration of the fans is better than the H510 Elite, but they both suffer airflow losses due to their front panel, though not enough to worry about.

SSD: Recommended since it's slightly better than the WD Blue 3D for only $2 more.

PSU: A+ Tier on PSU tier list and runs quietly. Lowered the wattage to 650w since you don't need it (and I couldn't find a 550w version of it). Secondary suggestion would be a 550w Corsair RMx or 550w Phanteks AMP for around $100 if you want to save $10 more.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($158.98 @ B&H)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair iCUE 465X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($106.99 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1245.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 18:54 EDT-0400

Also when i click on the link it says there are potential issues should i be worried about this?

 

[Bmh20]

this is the new build what does everyone think?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor	$199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$69.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$399.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1253.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 21:12 EDT-0400

 

[MrBrightSyde]

1 hour ago, Bmh20 said:

Also when i click on the link it says there are potential issues should i be worried about this?

 

The potential issues were back when Gen 3 Ryzen first released, old B450 boards needed a BIOS update to be compatible. Now, all new B450 boards have the BIOS pre-installed so there are no issues anymore.

 

1 hour ago, Bmh20 said:

this is the new build what does everyone think?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor	$199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$69.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$399.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case	$148.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1253.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 21:12 EDT-0400

 

3600X is not worth the price. It's basically a factory overclocked 3600 and you are only getting about 1-3 fps increase in 1080p gaming, which means that extra $25 could go to a 2TB HDD instead.

Basically, change the CPU back to a 3600 and change the HDD to 2TB.

 

 

 

 

 

[Gohardgrandpa]

2 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

The potential issues were back when Gen 3 Ryzen first released, old B450 boards needed a BIOS update to be compatible. Now, all new B450 boards have the BIOS pre-installed so there are no issues anymore.

 

3600X is not worth the price. It's basically a factory overclocked 3600 and you are only getting about 1-3 fps increase in 1080p gaming, which means that extra $25 could go to a 2TB HDD instead.

Basically, change the CPU back to a 3600 and change the HDD to 2TB.

 

This is good info, go with that. I only got my 3600x because it was open box for $150