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Is it okay if I pair a Ryzen 9 3900X with a B350-F Gaming?

 

I read the motherboard post and it said something about how much energy the MOBO can put out, but only question is does it run and how much does it bottleneck?

 

( I have updated my BIOS already to support the 3rd gen, i'd be moving from a 1600X )

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Oh yeahh that's fine, B350's are some of the best boards out there. No bottleneck problem.

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1 minute ago, Rotta said:

The motherboard is in the Tier E, wouldn't say some of the best.

I guess you've answered your own question then.

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35 minutes ago, Fakmykak said:

Oh yeahh that's fine, B350's are some of the best boards out there. No bottleneck problem.

If this is sarcasm it really doesn't help anyone.

 

30 minutes ago, Rotta said:

Not really, my question was would it bottleneck so much that its going to make the system unstable.

It wouldn't technically bottleneck the CPU, but you may run into power delivery issues. So it isn't really recommended, that said the Asus B350-f at least has some form of VRM cooling, just don't expect to OC the 3900x, not that it's recommended with 3rd gen Ryzen anyways. But you may want to set the CPU voltage manual to something like 1.250V, keeping the voltage and temps low is ideal.

 

What do you need this system for?

 

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23 minutes ago, JM21 said:

If this is sarcasm it really doesn't help anyone.

 

It wouldn't technically bottleneck the CPU, but you may run into power delivery issues. So it isn't really recommended, that said the Asus B350-f at least has some form of VRM cooling, just don't expect to OC the 3900x, not that it's recommended with 3rd gen Ryzen anyways. But you may want to set the CPU voltage manual to something like 1.250V, keeping the voltage and temps low is ideal.

 

What do you need this system for?

 

Just gaming mostly, I hardly edit videos etc.

Recording is a must, but thats already taken care of by the GPU.

 

Nothing heavy, I wont OC the CPU at all. I checked a benchmark on the exact same board and CPU, they got 72 degrees celsius with no OC. Is that high?

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31 minutes ago, Rotta said:

Just gaming mostly, I hardly edit videos etc.

Recording is a must, but thats already taken care of by the GPU.

 

Nothing heavy, I wont OC the CPU at all. I checked a benchmark on the exact same board and CPU, they got 72 degrees celsius with no OC. Is that high?

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7 minutes ago, Rotta said:

Just gaming mostly, I hardly edit videos etc.

Recording is a must, but thats already taken care of by the GPU.

 

Nothing heavy, I wont OC the CPU at all. I checked a benchmark on the exact same board and CPU, they got 65 degrees celsius with no OC. Is that high?

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I feel like the 3700x would be a better option, especially if you just game. It also is a much lower TDP chip so it would be a 'safer' option, motherboard taken into consideration. 

 

65 degrees C is pretty low for that CPU.

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1 minute ago, JM21 said:

I feel like the 3700x would be a better option, especially if you just game. It also is a much lower TDP chip so it would be a 'safer' option, motherboard taken into consideration. 

 

65 degrees C is pretty low for that CPU.

Im mainly looking for a futureproof CPU, I am a bit sceptical about the 12 cores which probably most of the games wont utilize fully?

The 9 3900X is on a huge sale, 3700X is quite overpriced considering the deal i'd be getting.

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2 minutes ago, Rotta said:

I should just buy an X570 ? Whats a good one with good VRM and good troubleshooting leds/post/debug code, price-performance wise?

If you are looking to upgrade the motherboard a t the very least get the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max

 

But the ideal would be something like the Asus X570 Prime.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/McfFf7/asus-prime-x570-p-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x570-p

 

I would suggest looking at this list:

 

2 minutes ago, Rotta said:

Im mainly looking for a futureproof CPU, I am a bit sceptical about the 12 cores which probably most of the games wont utilize fully?

The 9 3900X is on a huge sale, 3700X is quite overpriced considering the deal i'd be getting.

Games will never utilize all 12-cores but the 3900x does hold up well in gaming, if it's on sale then I guess that makes more sense.

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7 minutes ago, JM21 said:

If you are looking to upgrade the motherboard a t the very least get the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max

 

But the ideal would be something like the Asus X570 Prime.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/McfFf7/asus-prime-x570-p-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x570-p

 

I would suggest looking at this list:

 

Games will never utilize all 12-cores but the 3900x does hold up well in gaming, if it's on sale then I guess that makes more sense.

 

I just checked the reviews on the ASUS Prime 570-P and one of the reviewers said that the chipset cooler sits under the GPU?

Red Devil RX 5700 XT is quite a big GPU, is there going to be any problems here?

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6 minutes ago, Rotta said:

 

I just checked the reviews on the ASUS Prime 570-P and one of the reviewers said that the chipset cooler sits under the GPU?

Red Devil RX 5700 XT is quite a big GPU, is there going to be any problems here?

It should be fine, Asus wouldn't make a motherboard that is incompatible with large GPU's, at least I would hope not haha...

 

Another good option for just a bit more is:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

 

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3 minutes ago, JM21 said:

It should be fine, Asus wouldn't make a motherboard that is incompatible with large GPU's, at least I would hope not haha...

 

Another good option for just a bit more is:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

 

I highly appreciate your help! I have put some items to my bucket list, and will be buying as soon as possible!

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2 minutes ago, Rotta said:

I highly appreciate your help! I have put some items to my bucket list, and will be buying as soon as possible!

Happy to provide some advice!

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6 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

CPUs like the 3900x and the i9 version/s are more ideal for workstation tasks than outright gaming.   Depending on what you play a 3600 could be more than enough, but a 3700x is a decent halfway point.   I'm going with a 3900x, or 4000 series equal CPU due to the fact that I also do 3D modeling and animations plus coding on top of gaming.   At 1080p with a Radeon VII and a 3600 I can easily maintain over 130 fps at ultras in AAA titles at 1080p.   As for the board, it would be problematic with anything over a 3600x in terms of Ryzen 3000.   You also don't need an x570 you could just get a B450 Tomahawk Max and call it a day.

But would the 7 3700X be a futureproof option? AMD is quite literally just dump selling all of their CPU's right now because of the upcoming 4000 series.

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35 minutes ago, Rotta said:

3900X, not 3600.

3900x and 3700x are largely equal in gaming, so unless you multitask a lot there isnt much gain to be had by spending extra on the R9

 

1 hour ago, Rotta said:

 

I just checked the reviews on the ASUS Prime 570-P and one of the reviewers said that the chipset cooler sits under the GPU?

Red Devil RX 5700 XT is quite a big GPU, is there going to be any problems here?

If that's a problem, all X570 boards are bad because all of them have the chipset fan below the graphics card

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

3900x and 3700x are largely equal in gaming, so unless you multitask a lot there isnt much gain to be had by spending extra on the R9

 

If that's a problem, all X570 boards are bad because all of them have the chipset fan below the graphics card

If theres no thermal issues with it and it fits, I think it wont matter to be fair. If I had the specifics of the motherboard it could be easier to determine.

 

I dont know whats considered multitasking, but I currently have 15 tabs open in Chrome, PC running Uplay, Spotify, Steam, ShareX and Task Manager. I also listen music from Youtube almost at all times.

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20 minutes ago, Rotta said:

I dont know whats considered multitasking, but I currently have 15 tabs open in Chrome, PC running Uplay, Spotify, Steam, ShareX and Task Manager. I also listen music from Youtube almost at all times.

What we're thinking are more like Minecraft server + another game, apps you listed usually need extra RAM but not necessarily CPU

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