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[LtSmeagol Gaming]

Can someone take a look at this build? I'm just looking for feedback as I will be using it as a gaming computer while my old tower runs the stream. 

 

Thanks all!

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GLfV7

[Fasauceome]

If you buy a way cheaper motherboard you can afford a much better graphics card. Is the intention to only have the 1660 ti temporarily and then get something like a 2080 super later?

 

Also $170 for 16GB of ram is absurd.

[nick name]

Hello and welcome.

 

Serious question.  Are you trolling us?

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

I do plan on upgrading the graphics card later on. I wanted to get the more robust motherboard to allow it in the future. I'm currently running a GTX 960, so the 1660 ti is a huge jump for me as is and still within my budget.

 

And @nick name, I'm honestly not. I've been out of the building scene for quite a while, but now that I've started streaming, my old tower just isn't up to the task of running games and streaming at the same time.

[Meganter]

Hello,

 

Assuming, it's not trolling and just really bad, go for that instead :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$299.63 @ Walmart
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$159.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$110.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.99 @ Walmart
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$675.00 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	BitFenix Formula Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$89.00 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1558.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 09:41 EST-0500

 

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

Is there a reason to not use M.2 ports? As that was something I was looking at to load my OS onto.

Edit : Any reason to the aversion to the MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE EATX LGA1151 Motherboard and why? Just not worth the cost?

 

Also, ignore the M.2 question, I see it's on that mobo that @Plouffe listed.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

I do plan on upgrading the graphics card later on. I wanted to get the more robust motherboard to allow it in the future. I'm currently running a GTX 960, so the 1660 ti is a huge jump for me as is and still within my budget.

 

And nick name, I'm honestly not. I've been out of the building scene for quite a while, but now that I've started streaming, my old tower just isn't up to the task of running games and streaming at the same time.

Make sure you quote people so we can see your responses. 

 

Get a 1660 super instead if you wanted to have that performance increase, because it's almost as good as the 1660 TI for significantly less. Or just the list that @Plouffe made.

[Meganter]

4 minutes ago, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

Is there a reason to not use M.2 ports? As that was something I was looking at to load my OS onto.

Edit : Any reason to the aversion to the MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE EATX LGA1151 Motherboard and why? Just not worth the cost?

 

Also, ignore the M.2 question, I see it's on that mobo that @Plouffe listed.

It's completely overkill for a 8700k and the 8700k is already a generation old now.

[nick name]

6 minutes ago, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

-snip-

 

And @nick name, I'm honestly not. I've been out of the building scene for quite a while, but now that I've started streaming, my old tower just isn't up to the task of running games and streaming at the same time.

Ahh, then you're going to want to rethink the CPU/motherboard/GPU combo you have.  

 

 

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

@Plouffe ah, okay. I did just change it from the 9700.. I'm trying to cut costs to get it within my budget and admittedly I just watched a LTT video saying it was good for gaming, haha.

[nick name]

And I don't recommend going with a B450 motherboard as mentioned above.  If you're going older chipset than get an X470 board.  

[Meganter]

1 minute ago, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

@Plouffe ah, okay. I did just change it from the 9700.. I'm trying to cut costs to get it within my budget and admittedly I just watched a LTT video saying it was good for gaming, haha.

Or look at my build it's quite good too.

 

And the intel variant (no HT is a shit move from Intel though) :

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$369.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.46 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$174.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$159.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$110.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.99 @ Walmart
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$675.00 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	BitFenix Formula Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$89.00 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1790.39
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 09:51 EST-0500

And as you can see, it's really more expensive for a little gain in gaming.

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

Well, I'm willing to go to a newer chipset. I'd like to stay with Intel just out of brand loyalty as I've had it in every single build I've ever made.. So, I don't really know the AMD line which is why I'm hesitant to change. @nick name @Plouffe

[Meganter]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

And I don't recommend going with a B450 motherboard as mentioned above.  If you're going older chipset than get an X470 board.  

The B450 MSI A-Pro Max is capable of handling the 3900x so no worries with a 3700x. X470 are just overpriced.

[Meganter]

1 minute ago, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

Well, I'm willing to go to a newer chipset. I'd like to stay with Intel just out of brand loyalty as I've had it in every single build I've ever made.. So, I don't really know the AMD line which is why I'm hesitant to change. @nick name @Plouffe

Brand loyalty is a bad thing

 

Amd Zen 2 is very good and offers similar performance for 200$ less as you can see.

[ShinRamen]

5 minutes ago, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

@Plouffe ah, okay. I did just change it from the 9700.. I'm trying to cut costs to get it within my budget and admittedly I just watched a LTT video saying it was good for gaming, haha.

So gaming is your main goal for this build? 32GB Ram is overkill for that - 16GB is plenty. Even if you want to stream or do some video editing on the side. It's hard to beat the value of the 3700X right now, I would highly suggest going AMD. 

 

Here's a build with great performance and upgradability for the distant future. Even more money can be saved here (especially motherboard)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$299.63 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$144.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$82.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$110.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.99 @ Walmart
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$699.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1563.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 09:54 EST-0500

 

[nick name]

2 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

The B450 MSI A-Pro Max is capable of handling the 3900x so no worries with a 3700x. X470 are just overpriced.

You don't buy a motherboard simply for its theoretical power delivery capabilities.  Especially if it merely meets the requirements.  

 

Someone just posted a build with a ASUS Prime X570 board for $50 more and I'd recommend going that route.  

[Meganter]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

You don't buy a motherboard simply for its theoretical power delivery capabilities.  Especially if it merely meets the requirements.  

 

Someone just posted a build with a ASUS Prime X570 board for $50 more and I'd recommend going that route.  

VRM on the MAX serie is top notch, better than on most X570 from MSI even (same brand).
 

 

[nick name]

5 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

VRM on the MAX serie is top notch, better than on most X570 from MSI even (same brand).
 

 

I know that list exists.  Again, power delivery isn't the only factor.  Also, I haven't seen anything that didn't say the VRM on that board isn't going to get too hot under a heavy load.  

 

 

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Plouffe said:

VRM on the MAX serie is top notch, better than on most X570 from MSI even (same brand).

3900X is just not useful for a gaming rig so no need to argue on that

 

1 hour ago, nick name said:

I know that list exists.  Again, power delivery isn't the only factor.  Also, I haven't seen anything that didn't say the VRM on that board isn't going to get too hot under a heavy load.  

The A Pro could be a bit worse, but the Tomahawk fared ok.

[nick name]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

3900X is just not useful for a gaming rig so no need to argue on that

-snip-

But a 3900X can game and stream as OP is looking to do.  

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

Just now, nick name said:

But a 3900X can game and stream as OP is looking to do.  

1 hour ago, ShinRamen said:

So gaming is your main goal for this build? 32GB Ram is overkill for that - 16GB is plenty. Even if you want to stream or do some video editing on the side. It's hard to beat the value of the 3700X right now, I would highly suggest going AMD. 

 

Here's a build with great performance and upgradability for the distant future. Even more money can be saved here (especially motherboard)

Yes, streaming and gaming is important. The streaming not so much if I splurge for an elgato to kick it over to the old tower, but if possible I'd like to cut out a middle man as I only have one monitor at the moment. @nick name

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

But a 3900X can game and stream as OP is looking to do.  

Just use NVENC, any extra budget goes to kicking the 1660Ti out

 

@LtSmeagol Gaming no need for separate machine tbh unless it's something capable of x264 veryslow.

[nick name]

Just now, LtSmeagol Gaming said:

Yes, streaming and gaming is important. The streaming not so much if I splurge for an elgato to kick it over to the old tower, but if possible I'd like to cut out a middle man as I only have one monitor at the moment. @nick name

Do you run any overlays in OBS?  A 2700X can game and stream without any perceptible loss.  I've tested my setup.  Though I'm not sure what overlays may slow down the process.  

 

There's a ton of ways to configure a system to do what you do, but if you want fewer parts then stronger parts are needed.  

[LtSmeagol Gaming]

Is the RTX series that good? Like.. How long of a life expectancy can I expect out of that if I double my budget on a GPU?

 

@nick name currently I don't do any overlays as I haven't sprung for any elgato hardware.