Using Ryzen with windows 7

[ElBubsio]

Hi all,

 

I've just bought some new bits (mobo, cpu and RAM) for my PC and after putting it all together, I hooked up my Win7 HDD.  However, I then found out that my HDD won't boot becasue the mobo doesn't support IDE drives and even if I could boot, the mouse and keyboard are dead as Ryzen just doesn't like win7.  So questions -

 

1)  I can plug the HDD back into my old system.  Would it be okay to just use the 'turn AHCI on in win 7 without reinstalling' method to get the drive to boot when I put it back in the new Ryzen system?

 

2) I've found a couple of guides online for getting the USB to work using an installer from asrock, but they seem to involve making a boot disk and a complete reinstall of windows.  Is there any way to just add them without having to do this?

 

Thanks all

[The_Geek]

Why Win 7?

[Brooksie359]

I would use your windows 7 license key to activate a copy if windows 10 and call it a day. Windows 7 has lost support and it is a security risk to continue using it. 

[berberries]

9 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would use your windows 7 license key to activate a copy if windows 10 and call it a day. Windows 7 has lost support and it is a security risk to continue using it. 

I agree with this.

 

Not sure if its for nostalgic reasons etc that you still want to use win7, but its losing driver support and games etc actually perform better on win10.

 

Only reason I could think of sticking with win7 is if you are a professional sound engineer or something and many of your hardware/software only work on windows 7, and having to replace all of them with newer ones will cost alot more than trying to get win7 to work.

[ConduitCreator]

I used to be really stubborn about keeping windows 7 as well. I switched maybe a month ago and it's worth. Just get Windows 10 and call it a day.

[porina]

Not gonna question the how, but having done it in the past, I have some tips to help get going.

 

Assuming you get around the boot issue (I didn't have that) and get in, the no keyboard/mouse due to no USB drivers can be worked around using PS2 keyboard/mouse to gain control. If you think forward, pre-save the AMD chipset installer onto the boot drive or other drive visible to the system. If you have remote access configured, and the network is detected, that is another way to get control of the system.

 

Note if you're running Ryzen 3000, some of the USB3 ports are no longer supported under Win7, but if you try other ports, the chipset provided ones still work. If you really want to, others have found a way to hack the driver configuration files to make it install anyway but I never tried that.

[ewitte]

Even windows 10 scheduling hasn't caught up to Ryzen Linux does way better in some heavily threaded apps.  

[Guest]

4 hours ago, ElBubsio said:

Hi all,

 

I've just bought some new bits (mobo, cpu and RAM) for my PC and after putting it all together, I hooked up my Win7 HDD.  However, I then found out that my HDD won't boot becasue the mobo doesn't support IDE drives and even if I could boot, the mouse and keyboard are dead as Ryzen just doesn't like win7.  So questions -

 

1)  I can plug the HDD back into my old system.  Would it be okay to just use the 'turn AHCI on in win 7 without reinstalling' method to get the drive to boot when I put it back in the new Ryzen system?

 

2) I've found a couple of guides online for getting the USB to work using an installer from asrock, but they seem to involve making a boot disk and a complete reinstall of windows.  Is there any way to just add them without having to do this?

 

Thanks all

Depending on the board.....

 

Most boards still have USB 2.0 slots generally front panel connector required.

You use this for mouse and keyboard.

Some boards will have Legacy USB support where you can use the 3.0 ports, but generally sketchy. 

 

For my B450M-A, I had used USB 3.0 drivers from a B350 board that had supported W7 drivers.

Looking now, they've updated driver availability to the B450M-A and don't have a need for the B350 driver..... which happens to be the same.

 

No idea which board you're working with, so helping you is next to impossible aside from what's already been mentioned in this thread.

 

 

[ElBubsio]

Hi again,

 

Thanks for all the replies.  To those saying get win10, I use tit at work and don't really like it.  I just prefer win7, so unless it becomes 100% necessary to upgrade, I'd prefer to stick with win7.

 

I've ordered a ps2 adapter which should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully I should be able to get the necessary drivers installed with that.

 

@shrimpbrime

 

The mobo is an AsRock B450m Pro4-F.

[ElBubsio]

Oh, and to answer the first question in my OP, yes it is that easy apparently.  I just popped the HD back into old system, used regedit to AHCI on and swapped it back to the new system.  It booted fine

[Guest]

Try these. usb 3.1 and 3.0.

 

 

 

USB30_ZP.rarUSB31_PT.rar

[The_Geek]

15 hours ago, ElBubsio said:

Hi again,

 

Thanks for all the replies.  To those saying get win10, I use tit at work and don't really like it.  I just prefer win7, so unless it becomes 100% necessary to upgrade, I'd prefer to stick with win7.

 

I've ordered a ps2 adapter which should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully I should be able to get the necessary drivers installed with that.

 

@shrimpbrime

 

The mobo is an AsRock B450m Pro4-F.

Win7 is out of support, and there are hacker Bots that would be looking for Win7 on the internet to infect and use as DDoS Bots.

I would suggest you move to Win 10 if you at all surf the web on this machine. If this is a standalone, not connected to the Internet, then you should be fine, but for Internet use.. it can cause a lot of problems.

Win10 in the present day Ver 1909 is not too bad, yes there would be a learning curve and some of the things have moved to different places, but they are still there.

 

As for the PS2 adapter, that may not work also.

[TheNamelessOne]

37 minutes ago, The_Geek said:

Win7 is out of support, and there are hacker Bots that would be looking for Win7 on the internet to infect and use as DDoS Bots.

I would suggest you move to Win 10 if you at all surf the web on this machine. If this is a standalone, not connected to the Internet, then you should be fine, but for Internet use.. it can cause a lot of problems.

Win10 in the present day Ver 1909 is not too bad, yes there would be a learning curve and some of the things have moved to different places, but they are still there.

 

As for the PS2 adapter, that may not work also.

Who cares if it's out of support?