3600 - 3600x price worth it

[Gard]

I was just browsing through as many threads as I could find on the issue here.  Reading a few responses it seems people are not as high as they used to be on the 3600, compared to the 3600x.

Is it worth the $40 extra to go from 3600 to 3600x?  Or would that money be better spent elsewhere, possibly on RAM or GPU.

I plan to use my upcoming build for gaming and hoping that it will last me awhile.  My budget was around $1200 but that is including monitor and keyboard/mouse.  So probably closer to $900-$1000 just on the PC parts.

[dizmo]

It's better spent on a cooler.

You're going to get a pretty shitty monitor and peripherals for $200. I'd strongly advise against cheaping out there. It's a part that often goes on to many future builds, so it's worth investing in something good. If you don't you'll have a really unbalanced build; there's no point in getting anything higher than a 1650 Super if you don't have more than a 60hz monitor.

[Gard]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It's better spent on a cooler.

You're going to get a pretty shitty monitor and peripherals for $200. I'd strongly advise against cheaping out there. It's a part that often goes on to many future builds, so it's worth investing in something good. If you don't you'll have a really unbalanced build; there's no point in getting anything higher than a 1650 Super if you don't have more than a 60hz monitor.

Yeah I should've  been a little more clear there.  I was looking at something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p4WfrH/msi-optix-mag27cq-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-optix-mag27cq for my monitor.  I definitely do not want to cheap out on the monitor for reasons you listed.

[dizmo]

59 minutes ago, Gard said:

Yeah I should've  been a little more clear there.  I was looking at something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p4WfrH/msi-optix-mag27cq-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-optix-mag27cq for my monitor.  I definitely do not want to cheap out on the monitor for reasons you listed.

So how does that fit into your budget?

Do you have $700 for the PC, and $500 for the tower and peripherals? Seeing as the monitor alone is $360.

[Gard]

12 minutes ago, dizmo said:

So how does that fit into your budget?

Do you have $700 for the PC, and $500 for the tower and peripherals? Seeing as the monitor alone is $360.

I was going to splurge just a little bit on the monitor, probably get a lower end keyboard and mouse to start with.  Didn't need anything to fancy on case, so ya probably around $500 for tower and peripherals and then ~900 on my PC. So I guess my $1200 budget was a little conservative.
 

Question:  

Is the msi b450 motherboard:  MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard

CPU + b450 = $260

a smarter option than going with the x570?: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZLwrH/msi-x570-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-a-pro
CPU +x570= $310

about ~$50 or so difference

The microcenter by me also offers $20 off a motherboard - CPU Bundle.  

CPU + Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro = $389

CPU + Asus Prime x570 Prime Pro = $389

So i guess my question if you would know.  Is there any reason to consider going with the more expensive motherboards here?  If I only need 1 m.2 slot and no RGB function.  All i would want to do is make sure that it can run the RAM at full function

[Gard]

7 minutes ago, Gard said:

I was going to splurge just a little bit on the monitor, probably get a lower end keyboard and mouse to start with.  Didn't need anything to fancy on case, so ya probably around $500 for tower and peripherals and then ~900 on my PC. So I guess my $1200 budget was a little conservative.
 

Question:  

Is the msi b450 motherboard:  MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard

CPU + b450 = $260

a smarter option than going with the x570?: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZLwrH/msi-x570-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-a-pro
CPU +x570= $310

about ~$50 or so difference

The microcenter by me also offers $20 off a motherboard - CPU Bundle.  

CPU + Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro = $389

CPU + Asus Prime x570 Prime Pro = $389

So i guess my question if you would know.  Is there any reason to consider going with the more expensive motherboards here?  If I only need 1 m.2 slot and no RGB function.  All i would want to do is make sure that it can run the RAM at full function

it might even be possible to get the b450 and ryzen 5 3600 for $240 with bundle price.

[Midnitewolf]

No, save the $40 and go with the 3600.  

[dizmo]

3 hours ago, Gard said:

I was going to splurge just a little bit on the monitor, probably get a lower end keyboard and mouse to start with.  Didn't need anything to fancy on case, so ya probably around $500 for tower and peripherals and then ~900 on my PC. So I guess my $1200 budget was a little conservative.
 

Question:  

Is the msi b450 motherboard:  MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard

CPU + b450 = $260

a smarter option than going with the x570?: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZLwrH/msi-x570-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-a-pro
CPU +x570= $310

about ~$50 or so difference

The microcenter by me also offers $20 off a motherboard - CPU Bundle.  

CPU + Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro = $389

CPU + Asus Prime x570 Prime Pro = $389

So i guess my question if you would know.  Is there any reason to consider going with the more expensive motherboards here?  If I only need 1 m.2 slot and no RGB function.  All i would want to do is make sure that it can run the RAM at full function

Don't get an X570 MSI motherboard, they're trash. I wouldn't get one at all honestly, especially if you're looking at the basic A Pro one.

You don't really gain a great deal from X570. If they have an X470 on sale I'd maybe consider that.

The Gigabyte would be better than the Asus, for the ones you've pointed out above.

[Gard]

On 1/29/2020 at 4:52 PM, Midnitewolf said:

No, save the $40 and go with the 3600.  

is there an amount of $ that would qualify as making it worth jumping up to get the 3600x?  If it was $20 gap? or $30 gap?

[Midnitewolf]

On 1/31/2020 at 4:52 PM, Gard said:

is there an amount of $ that would qualify as making it worth jumping up to get the 3600x?  If it was $20 gap? or $30 gap?

This one is hard to say.  Honestly I don't really think so.  The 3600x will be a better binned chip which means all things being equal, you might get another 100mhz give or take out of the boost clock but this translates into like 1-2% real world performance.  In fact unless you want or need the extra cores, there isn't much of a case to argue getting a 3700x, 3800x or even 3900x over a 3600 to be honest because your only looking at maybe a 4-8% gain in performance from one end to the other. That is why the 3600 is the king of value right now.  If I had to be honest, maybe if I could get the 3600x for $10-$15 more than the 3600, I might consider it just because having th "X" in the name makes the 3600x sound cooler but I don't think I could justify the extra cost for any other reason.