EVGA CLC 280

[cyph0rg]

Hello,

 

Have the Ryzen 5 3600X in in, had it overclocked to 4.2GHz @ 1.25vcore on stock cooler.

Just bought and installed the EVGA CLC 280 and I'm struggling to load up even 4.3GHz even if I give it more voltage...

 

Is it the coolers fault? Or am I limited by the VRM? Would be weird since because AM4 optimization is rather awful on most MOBOs still, at stock configs this mobo pumps 1.478vcore to the CPU..

 

Thank Ahead,

Best regards,

cyph0rg.

[Jurrunio]

Voltage wall is a thing

 

23 minutes ago, cyph0rg said:

AM4 optimization is rather awful on most MOBOs still, at stock configs this mobo pumps 1.478vcore to the CPU

This is normal for single core workloads or even just mouse movements. It will go lower in multicore workloads.

[ImNotNeko]

Are you using an Asrock Mobo by any chance?
I have played with quite a few AM4 boards and Asrock tends to have Ram and OC issues very often.

 

If not, which motherboard are you using and how's the temperature?

Can't really say much unless I know the  temperature and your settings.

[cyph0rg]

19 minutes ago, ImNotNeko said:

Are you using an Asrock Mobo by any chance?
I have played with quite a few AM4 boards and Asrock tends to have Ram and OC issues very often.

 

If not, which motherboard are you using and how's the temperature?

Can't really say much unless I know the  temperature and your settings.

You are indeed correct, this is happening on the ASRock B450M Pro4.

[ImNotNeko]

12 minutes ago, cyph0rg said:

You are indeed correct, this is happening on the ASRock B450M Pro4.

 

I feel terrible to tell you this but I own a Asrock B450M Steel Legend and this mobo is garbage...

 

Your B450M Pro4 has a 3 phase VRM and that's quite bad...

To put it to perspective:

my X299 Gaming 9 board has 8 phase VRM and that thing heats up badly going 1.5v+ (also IR3556 mosfet)

my B450M Steel Legend has 4 phase VRM and it's unstable at 1.3v.

So with your 3 phase VRM (NIKO SEMI mosfet - known as the worst mosfet)  I doubt that board can overclock well.

 

Again, I'm sorry to tell you but that board is really bad.

Try to avoid Asrock Board for budget AM4.

[cyph0rg]

1 minute ago, ImNotNeko said:

 

I feel terrible to tell you this but I own a Asrock B450M Steel Legend and this mobo is garbage...

 

Your B450M Pro4 has a 3 phase VRM and that's quite bad...

To put it to perspective:

my X299 Gaming 9 board has 8 phase VRM and that thing heats up badly going 1.5v+ (also IR3556 mosfet)

my B450M Steel Legend has 4 phase VRM and it's unstable at 1.3v.

So with your 3 phase VRM (NIKO SEMI mosfet - known as the worst mosfet)  I doubt that board can overclock well.

 

Again, I'm sorry to tell you but that board is really bad.

Try to avoid Asrock Board for budget AM4.

Gotcha. Yeah, it all started nicely as a budget build and outgrew the budget rather quickly.. Currently running the 3600X in this Garbo board, and a 2700 in a MSI Tomahawk MAX..
Next upgrade step is to get a 3900X with a decent X570 board and sell this ASRock Pro4 with the 2700..

Just need roughly around $1100 for CPU+MOBO..

[ImNotNeko]

Just now, cyph0rg said:

Gotcha. Yeah, it all started nicely as a budget build and outgrew the budget rather quickly.. Currently running the 3600X in this Garbo board, and a 2700 in a MSI Tomahawk MAX..
Next upgrade step is to get a 3900X with a decent X570 board and sell this ASRock Pro4 with the 2700..

Just need roughly around $1100 for CPU+MOBO..

In my opinion, if you don't need an upgrade immediately, wait just a few more months and see how Ryzen 4000 series will be.

This year is the optimization step so it might bring some big performance.

 

also, if you are planning to get mobo and CPU, you never know if intel makes a come back this year! (insert doubt meme here)

 

 

also that MSI board has a decent VRM with a decent mosfet. I'd throw your 3600X there and it would be good for a while.

 

 

This is a side note (and for your future mobo I guess?) but I personally like Aorus boards the most.

ROG and Aorus boards are usually top of the line but the Gigabyte's dual bios will probably come in handy if you like to have fun with OC without indepth knowledge.

ROG boards usually hold the top spot in OC ranking if you really know what you are doing!

 

Good luck~

[cyph0rg]

4 minutes ago, ImNotNeko said:

In my opinion, if you don't need an upgrade immediately, wait just a few more months and see how Ryzen 4000 series will be.

This year is the optimization step so it might bring some big performance.

 

also, if you are planning to get mobo and CPU, you never know if intel makes a come back this year! (insert doubt meme here)

 

 

also that MSI board has a decent VRM with a decent mosfet. I'd throw your 3600X there and it would be good for a while.

 

 

This is a side note (and for your future mobo I guess?) but I personally like Aorus boards the most.

ROG and Aorus boards are usually top of the line but the Gigabyte's dual bios will probably come in handy if you like to have fun with OC without indepth knowledge.

ROG boards usually hold the top spot in OC ranking if you really know what you are doing!

 

Good luck~

Well, I still have quite a long road to get to a place where I can comfortably afford that. But if you also have any suggestions in regards to GPUs, I created this thread, this is the actual next step for my setup: