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What Determines Minecraft's FPS?

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Normally single threaded speed is the limit, but depends on the exact config.

I get that unless you have a really low budget pc, you are cpu bound.

 

Just wondering what matters more, more cores, or faster single core performance?

 

(Also, does Ram speed matter that much? I've got 16gb of 3200mhz ddr4 ram)

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Ram speed helps, but not much.

minecraft is 100% cpu bound, on a 1050 you can still get 1000+ fps if your cpu could keep up

single core

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Normally single threaded speed is the limit, but depends on the exact config.

so my rig's bottleneck in minecraft is 100% single threaded speed

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Faster single core, or you could just play on servers.

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Just now, Redrooster said:

so my rig's bottleneck in minecraft is 100% single threaded speed

probably. If you want it faster, faster ram can help, With ryzen, you can't get more clock speed easily with a oc as its boost gets you very close to the limit already. You can't change this, but more cache can help aswell.

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10 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

Ram speed helps, but not much.

minecraft is 100% cpu bound, on a 1050 you can still get 1000+ fps if your cpu could keep up

single core

No, both CPU and GPU contribute to performance.

A 1050 does not get anywhere near 1000fps, unles you're talking about minimum details which literally nobody plays at.

With a 2080ti though you can certainly get into 500+ on high details, something which you can't do with a 1050.

 

Single thread performance matters but you should have at least 4 cores on the CPU, since minecraft can use that many.

Having more than 4 cores won't help unless you're running other programs on the computer, in which case 8 cores would be a better option.

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

No, both CPU and GPU contribute to performance.

A 1050 does not get anywhere near 1000fps, unles you're talking about minimum details which literally nobody plays at.

With a 2080ti though you can certainly get into 500+ on high details, something which you can't do with a 1050.

 

Single thread performance matters but you should have at least 4 cores on the CPU, since minecraft can use that many.

Having more than 4 cores won't help unless you're running other programs on the computer, in which case 8 cores would be a better option.

on my i7-8700k and 1050 ti I hit 1000 fps, any while yes more cores is better for background tasks, when me and friends set up a vm for servers, we just allocate 1 core

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

No, both CPU and GPU contribute to performance.

A 1050 does not get anywhere near 1000fps, unles you're talking about minimum details which literally nobody plays at.

With a 2080ti though you can certainly get into 500+ on high details, something which you can't do with a 1050.

 

Single thread performance matters but you should have at least 4 cores on the CPU, since minecraft can use that many.

Having more than 4 cores won't help unless you're running other programs on the computer, in which case 8 cores would be a better option.

so my ryzen 5 2600 is the main bottleneck for this game, because it sure as hell aint my 2080 SUPER OC, or my 16gb ddr4 3200mhz memory.

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7 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

on my i7-8700k and 1050 ti I hit 1000 fps, any while yes more cores is better for background tasks, when me and friends set up a vm for servers, we just allocate 1 core

Unless you have a tiny render distance and low/medium quality settings you're def not hitting 1000.

Turn your details to max and use 16 or 32 chunk render distance, I guarantee you will not touch 1000fps.

 

Also the standard servers can use 4 threads, you're just lowering your tick by using 1 core.

Maybe you just don't notice it on vanilla, or you have few people on the server.

 

6 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

so my ryzen 5 2600 is the main bottleneck for this game, because it sure as hell aint my 2080 SUPER OC, or my 16gb ddr4 3200mhz memory.

Yeah.

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9 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

so my ryzen 5 2600 is the main bottleneck for this game, because it sure as hell aint my 2080 SUPER OC, or my 16gb ddr4 3200mhz memory.

depending on your settings, it's more than likely your cpu. here's hoping though that you didn't just slide view distance to max and called it a day, that kills the framerate.

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Just now, Jumballi said:

depending on your settings, it's more than likely your cpu. here's hoping though that you didn't just slide view distance to max and called it a day, that kills the framerate.

nope. I set it to 12 and use the SEUS shader. I get like 120+fps at 1440p (everything else maxed out)

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Just now, Redrooster said:

nope. I set it to 12 and use the SEUS shader. I get like 120+fps at 1440p (everything else maxed out)

sues uses your gpu, and it eats all your performance

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Just now, Jumballi said:

sues uses your gpu, and it eats all your performance

i know that much, I did it on purpose (to use more than 20% of my gpu)

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