1080Ti FTW3 strange issues

[jasonc_01]

Hey guys I'm usually pretty good with trouble shooting issues. However this has me stumped on weather its the card itself or something I'm causing, and if I should just RMA the card.

 

So I recently got a 1080ti FTW3 Hybrid card and its been acting pretty strange. I thought it was a driver issue or a precision x1 issue, however I did see a bit jump going back to the 441.66 , but its not the issue still persist, and I've never encountered this before.

 

The card upon restart acts normal, scores and runs as it should in heavan benchmark. Eventually though the card seems to have some sort of issue and the performance tanks. The benchmark starts stuttering and goes from mid 100 fps to 30-50 fps, from a 4000 score to 1600. I can recreate the issue by overclocking the card, and reverting back to default settings does nothing to solve the issue.

 

The only this that solves the problem is a system restart. Running the card with no overclock and increased voltage and power target can cause this as well, though stock settings will as well.

 

I had the evga monitor open to see what happens when the performance tanks and noticed that total power goes from the high 90s across the board to the 50s . Everything else stays the same like core clock, gpu usage, temperature and mem clock. Just power basically cuts in half and fps goes down to less than half.

 

Any ideas? Bad GPU? 

[Jurrunio]

This card should have multiple temperature readings you can get from Precision X1, check those

[jasonc_01]

16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

This card should have multiple temperature readings you can get from Precision X1, check those

Temps are good, its a hybrid card so the core peaks at the high 50s and everything else is 40 and under.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, jasonc_01 said:

Temps are good, its a hybrid card so the core peaks at the high 50s and everything else is 40 and under.

does it happen in games?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, jasonc_01 said:

 

 

I had the evga monitor open to see what happens when the performance tanks and noticed that total power goes from the high 90s across the board to the 50s . 

 

Any ideas? Bad GPU? 

 

Looks like the card gets near it's limit and drops the Gpu driver. you don't have to restart the computer to restart the driver sub system.

Next time, try this and see if it helps to prevent needing to restart the PC.

 

Win+Ctrl+Shift+B 

[jasonc_01]

13 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Looks like the card gets near it's limit and drops the Gpu driver. you don't have to restart the computer to restart the driver sub system.

Next time, try this and see if it helps to prevent needing to restart the PC.

 

Win+Ctrl+Shift+B 

I'll give that a try. It doesn't show any signs of a driver crash, it just happens.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

I'll give that a try. It doesn't show any signs of a driver crash, it just happens.

Driver crashes in two ways usually, there's actually 3 ways.

 

1. display loss for a few seconds and the driver recovers it'self.

2. driver soft crashes, still have a screen, load drops to 0 for a few seconds, OC is reset poor benchmark scores.

3. Crashes entire system to restart (these are usually bad lol)

[Archer20]

30 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Driver crashes in two ways usually, there's actually 3 ways.

 

1. display loss for a few seconds and the driver recovers it'self.

2. driver soft crashes, still have a screen, load drops to 0 for a few seconds, OC is reset poor benchmark scores.

3. Crashes entire system to restart (these are usually bad lol)

Exactly. And the place to check for the "less bad" crashes are event viewer.

[jasonc_01]

See it's number 2 however load stays high and OC does not reset.

 

I just had it happen. Tried Win+Ctrl+Shift+B  while running had no effect, and had no effect closing heaven and trying Win+Ctrl+Shift+B either.

 

its really odd.

[Archer20]

OP, check event viewer. As stated above, there are multiple types of crash. #2 will appear as a warning usually such as "video driver crashed but has successfully recovered"

#1 can also be a warning, or an error.

Event viewer should offer some valuable insight.

[jasonc_01]

8 minutes ago, Archer20 said:

OP, check event viewer. As stated above, there are multiple types of crash. #2 will appear as a warning usually such as "video driver crashed but has successfully recovered"

#1 can also be a warning, or an error.

Event viewer should offer some valuable insight.

There are no video driver crash events at all. 

 

Maybe the GPU bios is borked?

[Ebony Falcon]

Could be a cpu issue that causes loads to drop ect 

maby 

just try your cpu at stock for a few runs of something to see if it helps

[Archer20]

Just now, jasonc_01 said:

There are no video driver crash events at all. 

 

Maybe the GPU bios is borked?

Well if there are no crash events, the other thing that comes to mind are software conflict(like contention of resources/something interfering with the drivers operation). Oftentimes I would use something like HWINFO to monitor something like this to see exactly what is happening when the issue is occuring. I highly doubt the VBIOS is the culprit.

[jasonc_01]

4 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Could be a cpu issue that causes loads to drop ect 

maby 

just try your cpu at stock for a few runs of something to see if it helps

The cpu is rock solid, has been for 2 years. This started when I sold my water cooling gear and 1080 ti fe for cash and this ftw3 1080ti hybrid

[jasonc_01]

2 minutes ago, Archer20 said:

Well if there are no crash events, the other thing that comes to mind are software conflict(like contention of resources/something interfering with the drivers operation). Oftentimes I would use something like HWINFO to monitor something like this to see exactly what is happening when the issue is occuring. I highly doubt the VBIOS is the culprit.

The only thing I can see is the card voltage percent dropping to 50s low 60s. Maybe ill cause this issue with event viewer open to see if something pops up in real time.

[Archer20]

2 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

The only thing I can see is the card voltage percent dropping to 50s low 60s. Maybe ill cause this issue with event viewer open to see if something pops up in real time.

Well voltage dropping can be any number of things. Have you changed the settings in the NVIDIA control panel at all? Such as power management?

[jasonc_01]

24 minutes ago, Archer20 said:

Well voltage dropping can be any number of things. Have you changed the settings in the NVIDIA control panel at all? Such as power management?

Seems like it might be some flaw with the ftw3 hybrid cards.

[Archer20]

Just now, jasonc_01 said:

Seems like it might be some flaw with the ftw3 hybrid cards.

I have the air cooled version of the 1080 Ti FTW3(the three fanned massive cooler). I don't have the issue, so perhaps it is just the hybrid. Still, that is unacceptable.

[jasonc_01]

48 minutes ago, Archer20 said:

I have the air cooled version of the 1080 Ti FTW3(the three fanned massive cooler). I don't have the issue, so perhaps it is just the hybrid. Still, that is unacceptable.

I just stripped it down, cleaned it and reapplied past maybe that will do it. If not I only made the trade because I was getting an EVGA card back with warranty and EVGA has the best warranty. 

[Archer20]

3 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

I just stripped it down, cleaned it and reapplied past maybe that will do it. If not I only made the trade because I was getting an EVGA card back with warranty and EVGA has the best warranty. 

EVGA has the best warranty to this day. So if you have that option and the issue doesn't resolve after reinstall, I would go that route.

[jasonc_01]

39 minutes ago, Archer20 said:

EVGA has the best warranty to this day. So if you have that option and the issue doesn't resolve after reinstall, I would go that route.

Pretty much. I don't even know why people buy anything else but EVGA. It's a no brainer with transferrable warranty.

[jasonc_01]

4 hours ago, Archer20 said:

EVGA has the best warranty to this day. So if you have that option and the issue doesn't resolve after reinstall, I would go that route.

I gave it a test run reassembled and I think this thing is borked.  Started and ran through heaven and it punched out 4300, I thought it was solved until I started playing with the overclock and it fell on its face with the same issue.

 

However this time it would power throttle to around 70%. WTF?

 

Did some digging on the ftw3 hybrid power limit issue and although my rear shroud had the insulating tape already I put a small 3mm strip across the back grill where it contacts the PCB.

 

Fire it back up andess with the overclock and now it power limits to 50% and high 40s.

 

[Guest]

You did say that you had gotten this cad recently. Do you know the history of the card?

Was it used for mining? Does it have the correct proper bios installed?

 

If you're not sure, go to Techpowerup forums. 

Take a picture of the sticker on the card and a screen shot of Gpu-z/

Drop a new thread for help here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/nvidia.59/

 

Ask eidairaman1 for help, tell him I sent you.

Anything he asks for, please provide. 

If anyone can help you, he can.

 

 

[jasonc_01]

1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

You did say that you had gotten this cad recently. Do you know the history of the card?

Was it used for mining? Does it have the correct proper bios installed?

 

If you're not sure, go to Techpowerup forums. 

Take a picture of the sticker on the card and a screen shot of Gpu-z/

Drop a new thread for help here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/nvidia.59/

 

Ask eidairaman1 for help, tell him I sent you.

Anything he asks for, please provide. 

If anyone can help you, he can.

 

 

Not used for mining and has the proper bios.

[Guest]

Ok thats good. Just trying to help.