Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super vs Aftermarket

[Gol_D_Chris]

Hello,

 

I want to build a PC in March and i'm not sure if Nvidias RTX 2070 Super with it's clean design is better/worse than an aftermarket 2070 Super.

 

To be exact I'm looking at the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Advanced for 615€ (- 50€ cashback) vs the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER (539€, no promotion?)

[Princess Luna]

The Founders Edition is fine by every means, saving almost 100 euros sounds great too.

[Juular]

nVidia's stock SKUs are fine, on the level of lower-tier AIBs like MSI Ventus, ASUS Dual and EVGA SC. 55$ more for ASUS Strix may be worth it tho. Are there any EVGA XC's ?

[Gol_D_Chris]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

The Founders Edition is fine by every means, saving almost 100 euros sounds great too.

Thanks for the quick reply.

 

It's less than 100€. It's my fault, I didn't write it clearly with the cashback.

 

The Asus one costs 615€, but I get 50€ back, so it costs me technically 565€.

 

So Nvidias card is 26€ cheaper.

 

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Gol_D_Chris said:

So Nvidias card is 26€ cheaper.

It's up to you... at 26 euros only you might as well pick the Strix but you'll really only be gaining marginal better performance/lower noise... like it won't blow your mind but you might as well just go for it.

[Jurrunio]

ehm, nothing in between? The founders card is more competitive to mid range models like the Asus Dual and EVGA XC, so it could definitely be better for the same price range, in most markets anyway

[Gol_D_Chris]

4 minutes ago, Juular said:

nVidia's stock SKUs are fine, on the level of lower-tier AIBs like MSI Ventus, ASUS Dual and EVGA SC. 55$ more for ASUS Strix may be worth it tho. Are there any EVGA XC's ?

26€ would be about 29 USD, so it wouldn't be much.

 

There are EVGA XCs, but they cost 600€+.

 

Here's a link to these cards. The site is in german, but the video card names are the same

 

EVGA has a promotion too, but it's for Grip Combat racing and I'm not really interested in that game

[Juular]

There's MSI Ventus for 511 EUR also :

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=447,427&sort=price&page=1

[Gol_D_Chris]

16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

ehm, nothing in between? The founders card is more competitive to mid range models like the Asus Dual and EVGA XC, so it could definitely be better for the same price range, in most markets anyway

Some Gigabyte, PNY, Gainward and Zotac triple fan are between the FE and Strix, but I'll probably go with an Asus mainboard so those would match (not that it would make a big difference)

[Gol_D_Chris]

7 minutes ago, Juular said:

There's MSI Ventus for 511 EUR also :

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=447,427&sort=price&page=1

Thanks, I've seen that card. It sounds dumb, but I don't like the optic of most dual fan GPUs (and my build will be black). The FE is an exception, tough.

[Gol_D_Chris]

29 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

It's up to you... at 26 euros only you might as well pick the Strix but you'll really only be gaining marginal better performance/lower noise... like it won't blow your mind but you might as well just go for it.

I'll probably go for the Strix then.

 

Additionally I've seen that the FE has a 1-year warranty versus a 3-year warranty of the Strix

[Princess Luna]

10 minutes ago, Gol_D_Chris said:

Thanks, I've seen that card. It sounds dumb, but I don't like the optic of most dual fan GPUs (and my build will be black). The FE is an exception, tough.

The Ventus is arguably an inferior card as well so no loss there imo...

 

9 minutes ago, Gol_D_Chris said:

Additionally I've seen that the FE has a 1-year warranty versus a 3-year warranty of the Strix

Sounds good enough to me to justify it since you'd be paying around that much to extend the warranty either ways... the better card all in all comes as bonus ;]~

[Whiro]

@Princess Luna @Juular @Jurrunio
I always was under impression that nvidia living best gpu dies for themselves for founders edition so if you invest in waterblock for them you can squeeze more from them than any other, but I may be wrong (and most likely I’m wrong..) 

[xg32]

15 minutes ago, Gol_D_Chris said:

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depending on the pricing in ur region, it's better to get an AIB model for the same price for better cooling, it's not worth it to pay a decent amount for a slightly better cooler as it puts u in range of a 2080 (i saw one for 575usd over the holidays)

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, Whiro said:

@Princess Luna @Juular @Jurrunio
I always was under impression that nvidia living best gpu dies for themselves for founders edition so if you invest in waterblock for them you can squeeze more from them than any other, but I may be wrong (and most likely I’m wrong..) 

That is accurate but it's more notable on 2080S ~ 2080 Ti... the 2070S already is a lower tier Silicon on the wafer and "binning" doesn't stand out as much... In reality the Founders Edition and Strix would likely even out performance wise by how GPU Boost 4.0 works... the FE has better GPU but less cooling (even if marginally) while you can keep the GPU pretty cool with the very adequate Strix cooler.

 

I wouldn't call it worth going waterblock/AiO on the FE here as OP never mentioned desire to do so... that would also make things more expensive so yeah better to leave it to the higher tiers.

[Gol_D_Chris]

7 minutes ago, xg32 said:

depending on the pricing in ur region, it's better to get an AIB model for the same price for better cooling, it's not worth it to pay a decent amount for a slightly better cooler as it puts u in range of a 2080 (i saw one for 575usd over the holidays)

I'll guess I'll take the ROG Strix for 565€.

 

The cheapest 2080 cards start at 640€ and that's out of my budget

[Gol_D_Chris]

19 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

I wouldn't call it worth going waterblock/AiO on the FE here as OP never mentioned desire to do so... that would also make things more expensive so yeah better to leave it to the higher tiers.

I guess I would even lose the warranty if I'd do that and with the increased cost I probably would be in the 2080 (Super) range

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Juular said:

There's MSI Ventus for 511 EUR also :

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=447,427&sort=price&page=1

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

The Ventus is arguably an inferior card as well so no loss there imo...

small fan Ventus cards like that are awful with high pitch noise from the fan, which will be giving out that noise because they have to run at higher RPMs to compensate for the poor heatsink.

 

[Ebony Falcon]

3 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

That is accurate but it's more notable on 2080S ~ 2080 Ti... the 2070S already is a lower tier Silicon on the wafer and "binning" doesn't stand out as much... In reality the Founders Edition and Strix would likely even out performance wise by how GPU Boost 4.0 works... the FE has better GPU but less cooling (even if marginally) while you can keep the GPU pretty cool with the very adequate Strix cooler.

 

I wouldn't call it worth going waterblock/AiO on the FE here as OP never mentioned desire to do so... that would also make things more expensive so yeah better to leave it to the higher tiers.

Yeah binning is low on the lower tier gpus mostly because there the dies that weren’t good enough to be the high tier so they effectively cut bit off