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Final Fantasy XV heavy stuttering GTX 1060

leongunblade

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X

RAM: 16GB Viper Patriot 4 3200, running with XMP 2.0 at 3200 (2x8)

Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar

GPU: GTX 1060 6GB

STORAGE: OS installed on Crucial MX500 250GB SSD, games are installed on Sabrent 500GB NVME SSD

OS: Windows 10, latest version all possible updates installed

 

 

So I'm really losing my mind with this game and I have no idea what to try anymore.

 

The problems I'm getting are heavy stutters that can happen both when walking around or during fights. A thing I've noticed is that some monsters will specifically destroy the fps turning the game into a literal Power Point presentation, killing the performance and forcing the game to run at 9-10 fps for loooong periods of time. This happens especially when against flans or against those serpent monsters who can turn you into a frog.

Another thing that's killing it for me is the fact the from time to time, completely randomly, the game will freeze fore 1-3 seconds as if it is loading something, dropping my GPU usage to almost 0 and FPS to 0 too. I don't understand why such a thing would happen even when my GPU or CPU aren't maxed out or struggling or overheating.

 

My rig is not the most powerful one, I know, but during gameplay my temperatures are fine and the CPU is not being taxed that much, so I really don't understand what in the world is causing these huge drops.

 

Has anyone been able to play this game smoothly with similar hardware to mine? Is the game just a bad port and is there nothing we can do?

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37 minutes ago, leongunblade said:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X

RAM: 16GB Viper Patriot 4 3200, running with XMP 2.0 at 3200 (2x8)

Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar

GPU: GTX 1060 6GB

OS: Windows 10, latest version all possible updates installed

What are your hard-drives and where is FF installed? 

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-Scott Manley, 2021

 

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32 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

What are your hard-drives and where is FF installed? 

Forgot to add those.

OS is installed on a Crucial MX500 250GB SSD, while game is installed on a Sabrent 500GB NVME SSD.

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Just now, leongunblade said:

Forgot to add those.

OS is installed on a Crucial MX500 250GB SSD, while game is installed on a Sabrent 500GB NVME SSD.

Kinda what I was suspecting... 

 

 

Move the game to the OS drive - if you have enough space,  see if that fixes it... 

Some games are like that. 

 

To be clear I played the demo - there is no way this game runs *stable* on a 1060 at medium settings ... but I didn't have any of those hardcore dips,  game was almost running smoothly at 50-60fps.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

Kinda what I was suspecting... 

 

 

Move the game to the OS drive - if you have enough space,  see if that fixes it... 

Some games are like that. 

 

To be clear I played the demo - there is no way this game runs *stable* on a 1060 at medium settings ... but I didn't have any of those hardcore dips,  game was almost running smoothly at 50-60fps.

 

 

Sadly both the demo and the Benchmark cannot be trusted. I've played the demo before buying the game and even in the same zones the demo has better performance.

 

The benchmark ran with custom settings (mixture of high and medium, no Nvidia stuff enabled) and I got 6500 points and absolutely NO stutters whatsoever, which according to them is to be considered High...

 

The game isn't even struggling that much, I see that my GPU usage is even around 75% in some places like Hammerhead (desert zone). I would like to just lose frames and see the game slow down, but since it is running so well at rock solid 60 but just randomly stuttering and going in a instant from 60 to 0 the game just stops working for seconds. This is unbearable.

 

Game was also on the same SSD as OS and I had the same problems, I bought this nvme SSD for gaming but mainly for this game in particular, I have to admit...

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2 minutes ago, leongunblade said:

Sadly both the demo and the Benchmark cannot be trusted. I've played the demo before buying the game and even in the same zones the demo has better performance.

 

The benchmark ran with custom settings (mixture of high and medium, no Nvidia stuff enabled) and I got 6500 points and absolutely NO stutters whatsoever, which according to them is to be considered High...

 

The game isn't even struggling that much, I see that my GPU usage is even around 75% in some places like Hammerhead (desert zone). I would like to just lose frames and see the game slow down, but since it is running so well at rock solid 60 but just randomly stuttering and going in a instant from 60 to 0 the game just stops working for seconds. This is unbearable.

 

Game was also on the same SSD as OS and I had the same problems, I bought this nvme SSD for gaming but mainly for this game in particular, I have to admit...

Hmm I see,  I thought maybe running from the OS/SSD would help but I guess not then. 

And yeah the demo didn't run bad,  but also not great... I had a weaker CPU back when I tried which also could have contributed a bit, but yeah generally the game is pretty heavy on the hardware. 

 

Idk,  did you try turning off the most taxing settings - usually something with volumetric lighting or fog...? 

 

 

Well, tbh,  you just have to monitor it constantly and see what happens when you get those stutters.. Something must show up,  memory, gpu/cpu,  frequencies... 

 

I had a similar issue with Monster Hunter World,  monitoring and checking with MSI Afterburner is what actually helped me fixing it in the end,  but it wasn't an easy fix lol, involved firmware update for my Kingston drive,  "power cycling" the drive twice,  and now I have *only* Monster Hunter on it - I kinda figured writes is what messing it up perhaps, reads seem to work fine - and also I'm using a program to eliminate a known Windows 10 memory leak - without that I keep getting "mysterious" stutters,  obviously because the system keeps *needlessly* running out of memory and starts swapping memory around with this bug... 

 

Which is precisely what monitoring *everything* with MSI Afterburner helped me to figure out. 

 

 

The direction tells you... the direction

-Scott Manley, 2021

 

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Corsair Link (Anime Edition) 

MSI Afterburner 

OpenRGB

Lively Wallpaper 

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Audacity 

VLC

WMP

GIMP

HWiNFO64

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3D Paint

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Superposition 

Prime95

Aida64

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CPUZ

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9 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Hmm I see,  I thought maybe running from the OS/SSD would help but I guess not then. 

And yeah the demo didn't run bad,  but also not great... I had a weaker CPU back when I tried which also could have contributed a bit, but yeah generally the game is pretty heavy on the hardware. 

 

Idk,  did you try turning off the most taxing settings - usually something with volumetric lighting or fog...? 

 

 

Well, tbh,  you just have to monitor it constantly and see what happens when you get those stutters.. Something must show up,  memory, gpu/cpu,  frequencies... 

 

I had a similar issue with Monster Hunter World,  monitoring and checking with MSI Afterburner is what actually helped me fixing it in the end,  but it wasn't an easy fix lol, involved firmware update for my Kingston drive,  "power cycling" the drive twice,  and now I have *only* Monster Hunter on it - I kinda figured writes is what messing it up perhaps, reads seem to work fine - and also I'm using a program to eliminate a known Windows 10 memory leak - without that I keep getting "mysterious" stutters,  obviously because the system keeps *needlessly* running out of memory and starts swapping memory around with this bug... 

 

Which is precisely what monitoring *everything* with MSI Afterburner helped me to figure out. 

 

 

I use afterburner while gaming so I could try doing that, but how do I post the results here? Do I just make screenshots of the graphs?

 

The only thing that seems to happen by the way is just a complete drop in both CPU and GPU usage to almost 0 whenever the stutters happen in game, nothing more.

I'll play for a little while and wait for one stutter and then post the results here, maybe there's something I'm not noticing.

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Here are all the screens from the game after a biiiig stutter... Can they be useful?

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I was also able to record what happens in-game with Afterburner OSD too:

 

Ryzen 5 2600X, GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB OF 3200 DDR4 RAM, Windows 10 with latest possible updates installed, latest Nvidia drivers cleanly installed after a DDU uninstall and game running off of a brand new nvme SSD.

Hoping someone can help me troubleshoot, so this is what happens on my system whenever I try fighting these monstrosities. Look at my temps and GPU/CPU usage when the stutters occur. I have tried basically any settings and this keeps happening seemingly randomly as some times (as you can see in video 1) everything is fine but some other times the power point mode turns on.

 

Video 1:
https://youtu.be/rAZA2yYfQhI

 

Video 2:
https://youtu.be/pN9C9PdOzCc

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  • 2 weeks later...

Perhaps the game just doesn’t like Ryzen, Second Gen Ryzen or even Specifically the 2600x I have a 1070 Strix with 16 GB RAM with 2600x and I’m having ALL the same problems you are. Game runs fine on high to highest settings but even at the lowest. (Res all the way down to 50% {of 1080p) i get the drops fighting any type of Flan Or Nagini type daemon. I think it is something g about how they spawn in because my heaviest issuers are at the start of the fight. And when there is more of them. 

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