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Pcnoob745

Hello. My PC will have a Sapphire RX 590. My cousin says that Sapphire is crap but i think that Sapphire are still the best ones at AMD (or one of the best). Who is right?

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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Neither...? You judge the product in question, not the brand... Unless you're like 7, and all you care about is what stickers you get with your GPU/headset/mouse etc.

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1 minute ago, seon123 said:

Neither...? You judge the product in question, not the brand... Unless you're like 7, and all you care about is what stickers you get with your GPU/headset/mouse etc

Well the thing is that i do not care about the look. Performance is my nr. 1 question. Not about the looks

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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Sapphire is legit, stop worrying about it lol - Sapphire also tends to have some of the best air cooling options on the market for hot chips imho

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Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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1 minute ago, Pcnoob745 said:

 

Well the thing is that i do not care about the look. Performance is my nr. 1 question. Not about the looks

Again, the performance depends on the product. You shouldn't expect a Sapphire R7 240 to perform as well as a Sapphire 5700 XT Nitro+. And the 5700 XT Nitro+ is a better card than the 5700 XT Pulse, etc.

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Just now, Tristerin said:

Sapphire is legit, stop worrying about it lol - Sapphire also tends to have some of the best air cooling options on the market for hot chips imho

Im not worried. My cousin is like... If he does not recognize the company or isnt interested then he says its crap

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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Just now, seon123 said:

Again, the performance depends on the product. You shouldn't expect a Sapphire R7 240 to perform as well as a Sapphire 5700 XT Nitro+. And the 5700 XT Nitro+ is a better card than the 5700 XT Pulse, etc.

Ryzen 5 3600 with rx 590 16 gb ram

Thats the setup

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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Just now, Pcnoob745 said:

Ryzen 5 3600 with rx 590 16 gb ram

Thats the setup

And the main question really is.. is does it have a good reputation?

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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12 minutes ago, Pcnoob745 said:

Hello. My PC will have a Sapphire RX 590. My cousin says that Sapphire is crap but i think that Sapphire are still the best ones at AMD (or one of the best). Who is right?

I have heard the same from some ppl but Sapphire makes solid GPUs.

I believe that the reason they (and Powercolor) sometimes get a bad rep is because a lot of ppl are not familiar with them as they only make AMD gpus.

 

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Just now, Boyohan said:

I have heard the same from some ppl but Sapphire makes solid GPUs.

I believe that the reason they (and Powercolor) sometimes get a bad rep is because a lot of ppl are not familiar with the as they only make AMD gpus.

 

Thank you for the good answer!

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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1 minute ago, Pcnoob745 said:

And the main question really is.. is does it have a good reputation?

Well I still have somewhere my old Sapphire HD 7770 which runs without problems till now

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1 minute ago, Pcnoob745 said:

And the main question really is.. is does it have a good reputation?

Reputation?  In my circle of tech yes, I am running 2 Sapphire cards in my rigs.  

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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3 minutes ago, Pcnoob745 said:

Ryzen 5 3600 with rx 590 16 gb ram

Thats the setup

Solid setup for a mid range PC ?

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2 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

Solid setup for a mid range PC ?

Ok thanks for all the help I need to get some sleep as it is 0:23 am in Latvia

Specifications: 

MOBO: AsRock B450 PRO4

PSU: some kind of Corsair 80+ bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600x

GPU Radeon RX590

RAM 16 GB G.skill Ripjaws 3200mhz

Fans: Xilince and Aerocool

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10 minutes ago, Pcnoob745 said:

Im not worried. My cousin is like... If he does not recognize the company or isnt interested then he says its crap

Then what he said is irrelevant

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Sapphire is a "preferred partner", one of the companies that are first to receive documentation from AMD, they receive reference designs and info first and so on ... it's one of the benefits of making AMD cards exclusively.

The same way, you have brands like Zotac which are exclusive to nVidia.

 

I'm not aware of any model from Sapphire that was downright bad, with issues, unlike some models from some other manufacturers (like Asus TUF series, or that Thicc card which has crappy cooling, a MSI model that didn't have any heatsinks on ram making the ram work at 100+ degrees celsius etc etc)

The Sapphire cards are not always the best overclockers, but the actual design and components used are solid, so you wouldn't be disappointed with them.

 

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13 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Sapphire is a "preferred partner", one of the companies that are first to receive documentation from AMD, they receive reference designs and info first and so on ... it's one of the benefits of making AMD cards exclusively.

The same way, you have brands like Zotac which are exclusive to nVidia.

but what if I say Zotac and Sapphire share the same parent company (PCPartner)?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

but what if I say Zotac and Sapphire share the same parent company (PCPartner)?

I'm actually not sure Zotac has a similar situation to Sapphire - it's just the first brand that came to mind as being exclusively nVidia

EVGA is another company that makes only nVidia cards but I don't think they have some special arrangements with nVidia

If I remember correctly, BFG was another nVidia only, until they went under.

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7 minutes ago, mariushm said:

I'm actually not sure Zotac has a similar situation to Sapphire - it's just the first brand that came to mind as being exclusively nVidia

EVGA is another company that makes only nVidia cards but I don't think they have some special arrangements with nVidia

If I remember correctly, BFG was another nVidia only, until they went under.

I mean, maybe Sapphire gets extra care from AMD since PCPartner produces Radeon Pros, but Zotac certainly doesn't from Nvidia. Quadros and Teslas are made by Foxconn (after they bought Leadtek, that I know.

 

EVGA's the odd one, the only one making unlocked BIOSes available to customers I think. Others cant release their unlocked BIOSes.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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sapphire nitros are my go to with amd...top notch cooling and have never had a issue with them.

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