Has nzxt h510 good airflow?

[Milos9999]

Hi.

I have currently this case tg4 sharkoon and the fans are not too effective.

Cpu amd ryzen 5 3600x (stock cooler)

Gpu Gigabyte rtx 2070 8gb.

CPU temp 60-75*C

GPU temp 75-85*C

And the case is so hot.

If i play games(GPU 99% usage) temp are okey but after sometime case gets hot and then gpu and cpu temp changes.

If gpu usage go down then cpu and other temp go down.

If i open glass panel i get around 20*C down.

Thanks for any help.

 

 

[Jurrunio]

Nope, H510 is still more of a hot box than a well vented case

[Milos9999]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nope, H510 is still more of a hot box than a well vented case

 

3 minutes ago, Caroline said:

NZXT and good airflow can't be together in the same sentence.

What would you suggest?

When i checked case fans speed they were better then tg4 sharkoon.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Milos9999 said:

When i checked case fans speed they were better then tg4 sharkoon.

better case fans but worse case design (for airflow), that's what it is.

 

Maybe the Cooler Master NR600 or Phanteks P400A? Meshify C and 275R airflow are also viable

[Mezoxin]

the Cooler master H500 is also a good option and you wont need to buy any additional fans or RGB

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=h500&qid=1576273029&sr=8-1

 

 

 

[Enderman]

15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nope, H510 is still more of a hot box than a well vented case

14 minutes ago, Caroline said:

NZXT and good airflow can't be together in the same sentence.

 

The vents on the back are panel are pretty large.

If you use decent fans on the front there is no issue with heat, unless you try to run two xeons and 3GPUs or something stupid like that.

[Milos9999]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

 

The vents on the back are panel are pretty large.

If you use decent fans on the front there is no issue with heat, unless you try to run two xeons and 3GPUs or something stupid like that.

On front will be nothing  or water cooling for cpu.Would i need to buy aditional fans?

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Milos9999 said:

On front will be nothing  or water cooling for cpu.Would i need to buy aditional fans?

iirc it doesn't come with front fans, you should definitely buy 2x140mm fans for the front.

Or buy a 280mm AIO, which will come with fans.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

The vents on the back are panel are pretty large.

so you plan on pulling air in from the back? Dust problem aside, where should it leave the case?

 

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

If you use decent fans on the front there is no issue with heat, unless you try to run two xeons and 3GPUs or something stupid like that.

No issues? Define that first. Problem I have is that OP called the Sharkoon TG5 "insufficient", that case comes with 3 120mm fans (maybe terrible ones idk) on the front with side intakes on both sides, H510 only has 2 and only pull air from the back through little holes. No way would H510 do better. Might as well swap fans for the TG5 if that's the case

[Enderman]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

so you plan on pulling air in from the back? Dust problem aside, where should it leave the case?

 

No issues? Define that first. Problem I have is that OP called the Sharkoon TG5 "insufficient", that case comes with 3 120mm fans (maybe terrible ones idk) and has side intakes on both sides, H510 only has 2 and only pull air from the back through little holes. No way would H510 do better. Might as well swap fans for the TG5 if that's the case

1) the back side panel, opposite the glass, not the back of the case.

 

2) If you have decent 140mm fans at the front there is no problem with airflow or heat. Sure it's some degrees hotter than if you had a meshify c but not anywhere near marking a CPU or GPU overheat.

 

I have both an S340 and an H500, which is basically the same as an H510.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

1) the back side panel, opposite the glass, not the back of the case.

There are no fans pointing towards the back or on the back, this is not the Lian Li PC-O11

 

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

2) If you have decent 140mm fans at the front there is no problem with airflow or heat. Sure it's some degrees hotter than if you had a meshify c but not anywhere near marking a CPU or GPU overheat.

GPU thermals, now we're talking. The H510 (not H510 Elite, so no front fans anymore) has 1 exhaust at the top and back by default, which is sufficient for the CPU but nothing directed to the graphics card. Worst still, its input of air will be mostly from the PCIe slot (due to negative pressure), so dust build up will be a problem and could suck in some warm air from the rear exhaust fan.

[Mezoxin]

 

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

1) the back side panel, opposite the glass, not the back of the case.

 

2) If you have decent 140mm fans at the front there is no problem with airflow or heat. Sure it's some degrees hotter than if you had a meshify c but not anywhere near marking a CPU or GPU overheat.

 

I have both an S340 and an H500, which is basically the same as an H510.

yeah but if the OP is already investing money to replace his case because he isnt satisfied with its airflow why not go with one of the top performers in air cooling ?

 

the nzxt doesnt even come with front fans I would suggest the CM H500 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=h500&qid=1576273029&sr=8-1&tag=linus21-20&th=1

 

It has front mesh , two huge rgb front fans  and one back fan and very good cable management and TG side panel 

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

There are no fans pointing towards the back or on the back, this is not the Lian Li PC-O11

 

GPU thermals, now we're talking. The H510 (not H510 Elite, so no front fans anymore) has 1 exhaust at the top and back by default, which is sufficient for the CPU but nothing directed to the graphics card. Worst still, its input of air will be mostly from the PCIe slot (due to negative pressure), so dust build up will be a problem and could suck in some warm air from the rear exhaust fan.

It has two spots for fans in the front dude.........................

 

2 minutes ago, Mezoxin said:

yeah but if the OP is already investing money to replace his case because he isnt satisfied with its airflow why not go with one of the top performers in air cooling ?

 

the nzxt doesnt even come with front fans I would suggest the CM H500 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=h500&qid=1576273029&sr=8-1&tag=linus21-20&th=1

Well yeah because it's meant for you to put a 280mm AIO in the front.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

It has two spots for fans in the front dude.........................

that's why I'm not understnading it, it's pulled by fans at the front so I still call them front intakes. Otherwise cases that put holes on the side of the front panel will all be refered as "side intakes"

 

Doesnt change the fact that those holes are far from enough though, after you install fans to make them do something

 

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Well yeah because it's meant for you to put a 280mm AIO in the front.

OP's not using a radiator

[Milos9999]

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It has two spots for fans in the front dude.........................

 

Well yeah because it's meant for you to put a 280mm AIO in the front.

That fans are big but slow i guess and i cannot find anywhere cfm.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

that's why I'm not understnading it, it's pulled by fans at the front so I still call them front intakes. Otherwise cases that put holes on the side of the front panel will all be refered as "side intakes"

 

Doesnt change the fact that those holes are far from enough though, after you install fans to make them do something

 

OP's not using a radiator

1) the holes are definitely enough. my CPU temps are always below 65 and GPU temps below 80. And I run my fans at 600rpm.

 

2) You don't need to have a radiator to put fans there.

[Milos9999]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

that's why I'm not understnading it, it's pulled by fans at the front so I still call them front intakes. Otherwise cases that put holes on the side of the front panel will all be refered as "side intakes"

 

Doesnt change the fact that those holes are far from enough though, after you install fans to make them do something

 

OP's not using a radiator

I'm hopeless.I don't know if stock cooler on ryzen is good idea.For some people it works for some doesn't.Somebody says 80-90*C are ok some that too much.

Maybe that Aio would fix problem but i don't think so.I was thinking about this Aio for cpu.

Spoiler

https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/navis-rgb-280/

But i dont know.

Problem is that there is no way to find out if cpu is overheating gpu or gpu cpu.

[Milos9999]

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

1) the holes are definitely enough. my CPU temps are always below 65 and GPU temps below 80. And I run my fans at 600rpm.

 

2) You don't need to have a radiator to put fans there.

Do you think that overheating is doing cpu stock cooler?

[Mezoxin]

 

15 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It has two spots for fans in the front dude.........................

 

Well yeah because it's meant for you to put a 280mm AIO in the front.

why would he  spend 70$ on a case + 150$ on a 280 AIO cooler that would do nothing to improve the GPU temps   when he could easily just get a good performing air cooling case with all the necessary fans for 100$

[Jurrunio]

11 minutes ago, Enderman said:

1) the holes are definitely enough. my CPU temps are always below 65 and GPU temps below 80. And I run my fans at 600rpm.

because you have an AIO. OP wont be getting the same results

 

11 minutes ago, Enderman said:

2) You don't need to have a radiator to put fans there.

air cooled and liquid cooled are so different that it's pointless to argue, that's what shifting the location of heat dissipation can do.

 

9 minutes ago, Milos9999 said:

I'm hopeless.I don't know if stock cooler on ryzen is good idea.For some people it works for some doesn't.Somebody says 80-90*C are ok some that too much.

Maybe that Aio would fix problem but i don't think so.I was thinking about this Aio for cpu.

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https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/navis-rgb-280/

But i dont know.

Problem is that there is no way to find out if cpu is overheating gpu or gpu cpu.

Stock cooler is not a bad idea but it is weak enough that buying a $30-40 cooler is worth it if you value noise and temperature if not overclocking (as little headroom as it has).

 

For the CPU, it start losing boost from about 60C and gets more and more when temperatures continue to rise. Stock coolers keep the CPU at about 80C so it's not the end of the world, just not impressive

 

No experience on this AIO, but because the cost of failure (e.g. leaking) is so much higher I won't trust unproven AIOs like this.

 

Which is cooking which? With a good case that won't be a problem, so solve that first. If one of them is still overheating, it's the cooler on top of the silicon that's the problem.

[Mezoxin]

 

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

 

For the CPU, it start losing boost from about 60C 

cpu's dont throttle at 60c , GPU boost do start throttling at above 70C though 

[Milos9999]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

because you have an AIO. OP wont be getting the same results

 

air cooled and liquid cooled are so different that it's pointless to argue, that's what shifting the location of heat dissipation can do.

 

Stock cooler is not a bad idea but it is weak enough that buying a $30-40 cooler is worth it if you value noise and temperature if not overclocking (as little headroom as it has).

 

For the CPU, it start losing boost from about 60C and gets more and more when temperatures continue to rise. Stock coolers keep the CPU at about 80C so it's not the end of the day

 

No experience on this AIO, but because the cost of failure (e.g. leaking) is so much higher I won't trust unproven AIOs like this.

 

Which is cooking which? With a good case that won't be a problem, so solve that first. If one of them is still overheating, it's the cooler on top of the silicon that's the problem.

I asked because that stock cooler seems to spread hot air around whole case but aftermarket box cooler seems to move it to exhale fan.

Im not worrying about cpu but gpu heats up and get sometimes near 89 which is critical.

[Milos9999]

1 minute ago, Mezoxin said:

 

cpu's dont throttle at 60c , GPU boost do start throttling at above 70C though 

Do you think that stock cooler can heat up gpu?

 

[Mezoxin]

Just now, Milos9999 said:

Do you think that stock cooler can heat up gpu?

 

no it wont if you have a proper airflow case 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Mezoxin said:

 

cpu's dont throttle at 60c , GPU boost do start throttling at above 70C though 

I didnt say the CPU thermal throttles. Ryzen 3rd gen lose frequency just like Nvidia GPUs and AMD Navi under higher temperature even though they dont throttle

 

Just now, Milos9999 said:

I asked because that stock cooler seems to spread hot air around whole case but aftermarket box cooler seems to move it to exhale fan.

Im not worrying about cpu but gpu heats up and get sometimes near 89 which is critical.

Downdrafts like the stock cooler may be pushing hot air around instead of the exhaust fan, but not a big factor compared to the heatsink size and surface area's effect.